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  • H Horace
    9 Jan 2021, 18:04

    Renauda's prediction is that pop culture will turn authoritarian right within a foreseeable future. I don't see that as a reasonable possibility, much less a probability, personally. I think our pop culture has too much inertia towards the left.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 18:11 last edited by
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    @horace

    Then you have definitely misunderstood my prediction. My prediction is that an American caesar or Napoleon will arise out of this mayhem and once and for all quell the mob. You really ought to go to Wikipedia and look up what 19 Brumaire was, maybe then you'll understand.

    Yes, I know you disdain the lessons of history but that's your problem.

    Elbows up!

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      George K
      wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 18:16 last edited by
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      Screen Shot 2021-01-09 at 12.14.59 PM.png

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • R Renauda
        9 Jan 2021, 18:11

        @horace

        Then you have definitely misunderstood my prediction. My prediction is that an American caesar or Napoleon will arise out of this mayhem and once and for all quell the mob. You really ought to go to Wikipedia and look up what 19 Brumaire was, maybe then you'll understand.

        Yes, I know you disdain the lessons of history but that's your problem.

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        Horace
        wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 18:16 last edited by
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        @renauda said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

        @horace

        Then you have definitely misunderstood my prediction. My prediction is that an American caesar or Napoleon will arise out of this mayhem and once and for all quell the mob. You really ought to go to Wikipedia and look up what 19 Brumaire was, maybe then you'll understand.

        Yes, I know you disdain the lessons of history but that's your problem.

        I don't understand how one could win control over America, without winning over pop culture. If that is not your contention then I have misunderstood your prediction.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • H Horace
          9 Jan 2021, 18:16

          @renauda said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

          @horace

          Then you have definitely misunderstood my prediction. My prediction is that an American caesar or Napoleon will arise out of this mayhem and once and for all quell the mob. You really ought to go to Wikipedia and look up what 19 Brumaire was, maybe then you'll understand.

          Yes, I know you disdain the lessons of history but that's your problem.

          I don't understand how one could win control over America, without winning over pop culture. If that is not your contention then I have misunderstood your prediction.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 18:19 last edited by
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          @horace

          Winning over pop culture was never my contention. Tearing down the mob rule of pop culture was.

          Elbows up!

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          • R Renauda
            9 Jan 2021, 18:19

            @horace

            Winning over pop culture was never my contention. Tearing down the mob rule of pop culture was.

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            Horace
            wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 18:23 last edited by Horace 1 Sept 2021, 18:25
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            @renauda said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

            @horace

            Winning over pop culture was never my contention. Tearing down the mob rule of pop culture was.

            So our duly elected government will manage to maintain an authoritarian right platform simply because a majority of voters will prefer it to the mob rule of the left?

            If that's the contention, I don't see it. The majority, including our most important cultural idea propagators (MSM, big tech, movies, celebrities, influencers, etc), have no real issue with mob rule of the left.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Horace
              wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 18:24 last edited by
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              That said, if the majority really did become repulsed enough by leftist mob rule, I don't see why a decent person wouldn't welcome the change you predict as at least "a better alternative". Perfect shouldn't be the enemy of the good.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • R Renauda
                9 Jan 2021, 18:11

                @horace

                Then you have definitely misunderstood my prediction. My prediction is that an American caesar or Napoleon will arise out of this mayhem and once and for all quell the mob. You really ought to go to Wikipedia and look up what 19 Brumaire was, maybe then you'll understand.

                Yes, I know you disdain the lessons of history but that's your problem.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 18:46 last edited by
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                @renauda said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                @horace

                Then you have definitely misunderstood my prediction. My prediction is that an American caesar or Napoleon will arise out of this mayhem and once and for all quell the mob. You really ought to go to Wikipedia and look up what 19 Brumaire was, maybe then you'll understand.

                Yes, I know you disdain the lessons of history but that's your problem.

                Civil War 2?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 19:59 last edited by
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                  https://myspace.com/therealdonaldjtrump

                  Check it out.

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                    9 Jan 2021, 19:59

                    https://myspace.com/therealdonaldjtrump

                    Check it out.

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 20:02 last edited by
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                    @axtremus said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                    https://myspace.com/therealdonaldjtrump

                    Check it out.

                    Nope.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 20:03 last edited by
                      #31

                      I've never followed his social media accounts. I always knew whatever he said would infiltrate to any media I ever consume, including TNCR.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • H Horace
                        9 Jan 2021, 20:03

                        I've never followed his social media accounts. I always knew whatever he said would infiltrate to any media I ever consume, including TNCR.

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                        Loki
                        wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 20:06 last edited by Loki 1 Sept 2021, 20:07
                        #32

                        @horace said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                        I've never followed his social media accounts. I always knew whatever he said would infiltrate to any media I ever consume, including TNCR.

                        Exactly. Even the marginal stuff posted here at least has made it though much filtering. I see more than I need to at TNCR, just stuff meant to incite people.

                        We are a culture that incites. Remember that when the word is used this week.

                        And so many people want to put a brick on the incite pedal.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 20:07 last edited by
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                          It’s parody.

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • J Jolly
                            9 Jan 2021, 18:46

                            @renauda said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                            @horace

                            Then you have definitely misunderstood my prediction. My prediction is that an American caesar or Napoleon will arise out of this mayhem and once and for all quell the mob. You really ought to go to Wikipedia and look up what 19 Brumaire was, maybe then you'll understand.

                            Yes, I know you disdain the lessons of history but that's your problem.

                            Civil War 2?

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 20:46 last edited by Renauda 1 Sept 2021, 20:47
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                            @jolly

                            I don't think so, or at least not at all like the scale of the last one with two armies marching on one another. Rather people will be so numbed with the social mayhem and political gridlock created by the extremes of the right and left, that the majority and the various states will welcome a MacArthur like figure, but not necessarily a military person, who will put together a governing junta to restore order under the banner of patriotism and the Constitution.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • R Renauda
                              9 Jan 2021, 20:46

                              @jolly

                              I don't think so, or at least not at all like the scale of the last one with two armies marching on one another. Rather people will be so numbed with the social mayhem and political gridlock created by the extremes of the right and left, that the majority and the various states will welcome a MacArthur like figure, but not necessarily a military person, who will put together a governing junta to restore order under the banner of patriotism and the Constitution.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 20:56 last edited by
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                              @renauda said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                              @jolly

                              I don't think so, or at least not at all like the scale of the last one with two armies marching on one another. Rather people will be so numbed with the social mayhem and political gridlock created by the extremes of the right and left, that the majority and the various states will welcome a MacArthur like figure, but not necessarily a military person, who will put together a governing junta to restore order under the banner of patriotism and the Constitution.

                              Why not go authoritarian left rather than authoritarian right? Certainly if we're to squelch the encouraged and enabled mobs, we will need law enforcement to do its job, but why can't the left happily embrace that as much as the right?

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                xenon
                                wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 21:15 last edited by
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                                In the civil war, peoples’ economic way of life was threatened.

                                I think it’ll take a lot for people without real threats of their livelihoods to willingly go to Armageddon.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 21:24 last edited by
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • X xenon
                                    9 Jan 2021, 21:15

                                    In the civil war, peoples’ economic way of life was threatened.

                                    I think it’ll take a lot for people without real threats of their livelihoods to willingly go to Armageddon.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 21:27 last edited by Horace 1 Sept 2021, 21:29
                                    #38

                                    @xenon said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                    In the civil war, peoples’ economic way of life was threatened.

                                    I think it’ll take a lot for people without real threats of their livelihoods to willingly go to Armageddon.

                                    It won't take a civil war, I think Renauda is envisioning a military coup based on a fair election of an authoritarian candidate, who will then control the military. Personally I don't see what that necessarily has to do with left/right. I do understand that the right has come out nearly unanimously against the idiotic capitol raid, while the left didn't make a peep about CHAZ, Portland, etc. But now they want their righteousness to be taken seriously. Pretty sure most of us connected to the reality of human experience are aware it's the overwhelming hatred of Trump, and the overwhelming desire to bask in victory, which are doing the talking.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 21:29 last edited by
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                                      What follows is The Standard Reply:

                                      What are you still waiting for? Start building your own alternatives to Twitter, Google, Facebook, etc. already.

                                      The point about Android shows much ignorance on the part of the author. Unlike Apple/iOS, Android is open source and anyone can put up an Android “app store” that distributes apps to Android devices. There is literally no way for Google to monopolize Android or ban any third party apps for Android. The Betsy Google can do is to refuse distributing a third party app via the Google Play Store, which is only one of many “app stores” for Android. And as long as you have Android, you have an alternative to Apple/iOS.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Klaus
                                        wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 21:32 last edited by
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                                        Have you ever met anyone who has used something different from the Google Play Store on his or her Android device?

                                        I have, but I'm a nerd.

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                                          xenon
                                          wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 21:35 last edited by xenon 1 Sept 2021, 21:38
                                          #41

                                          Google’s flavor of Android is probably used on the vast, vast majority of Android phones (I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s in the 90%’s in the US).

                                          The other popular flavor is Amazon’s. As Klaus mentioned, everything else is nerd fodder. 🙂

                                          Also - you can access any mainstream social media platform from the browser. It’s very easy for me to use Parler on my iPhone (if I were so inclined.)

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