The woman who was shot - graphic video
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How do you know?
Personally I'd need to know more about what was in that hallway that the men were protecting before I could express an opinion. That could have been the offices where all the people were hiding. They had chairs piled up against the entrance and guns drawn. A mob was trying to breech it despite that.
That shot undoubtedly stopped further attempts at breeching it. If that's where the staff were hiding then it was probably necessary, if tragic.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 14:42 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
How do you know?
Personally I'd need to know more about what was in that hallway that the men were protecting before I could express an opinion. That could have been the offices where all the people were hiding. They had chairs piled up against the entrance and guns drawn. A mob was trying to breech it despite that.
That shot undoubtedly stopped further attempts at breeching it. If that's where the staff were hiding then it was probably necessary, if tragic.
well I don't "know". It didn't seem to me based on that video that she needed to be shot.
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Possibly a bad shooting. Maybe a good shooting. I don't know.
As far as I can tell, I don't think she had a weapon. And I can't tell if she was trying to gain entrance into the hallway.
What would scare me, is she's right next to an armed cop. Bullets go through people. They ricochet. The officer could have killed a cop just as easily as a civilian.
I'd like to hear from the cop standing by her, as to whether she had been trying to take his weapon, etc...
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 14:55 last edited by jodi 1 Jul 2021, 14:59
Video here (you will have to click on it to get to YouTube) it shows a different angle, from behind. It’s chaos, and the police are coming up from the other side, and I’m surprised nobody else got shot.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/video-shows-moment-ashli-babbit-was-fatally-shot-in-capitol/
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 14:59 last edited by jon-nyc 1 Jul 2021, 14:59
That definitely confirms that the shot stopped the mob from attempting to breech the entrance to the are guarded by the secret service.
Soon enough we'll find out what they were guarding. Though 'an area of the capital building' is no doubt sufficient in law to justify the shot.
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:00 last edited by
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
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And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:00 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
The soil for growing narratives is fallow on the left and rich on the right. Maybe Renauda has a point about where our culture is heading.
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And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:03 last edited by jon-nyc 1 Jul 2021, 15:07@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or an empty Old Navy.
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or an empty Old Navy.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:05 last edited by Horace 1 Jul 2021, 15:06@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or and empty Old Navy.
Capitol building is a message, and completely unattainable. On the other hand, entire neighborhoods were secured by the rioting left. People were living in those neighborhoods, and you tell me if they felt free to say who they voted for.
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or an empty Old Navy.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:05 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or and empty Old Navy.
How the fuck many electoral college tallies were they taking in that Old Navy? Did they try to steal the physical votes for best khakis?
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@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or and empty Old Navy.
Capitol building is a message, and completely unattainable. On the other hand, entire neighborhoods were secured by the rioting left. People were living in those neighborhoods, and you tell me if they felt free to say who they voted for.
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:14 last edited by Copper 1 Jul 2021, 15:14
In general public property should be more open than private.
Especially that public property
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That definitely confirms that the shot stopped the mob from attempting to breech the entrance to the are guarded by the secret service.
Soon enough we'll find out what they were guarding. Though 'an area of the capital building' is no doubt sufficient in law to justify the shot.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:17 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
That definitely confirms that the shot stopped the mob from attempting to breech the entrance to the are guarded by the secret service.
Soon enough we'll find out what they were guarding. Though 'an area of the capital building' is no doubt sufficient in law to justify the shot.
That's the actual point.
If the agents were protecting staffers or elected officials, the shot is righteous. Possibly ill-advised, but righteous.
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:19 last edited by
I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:21 last edited by
More about the woman.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/07/ashli-babbitt-dead-capitol-riot/
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:24 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
Right? Keep in mind the Vice President was in the building. I'm a little surprised the secret service didn't open up on the crowd with machine guns.
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:24 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
These people need to go to jail.
52 did go to jail
Probably not for long
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:24 last edited by jon-nyc 1 Jul 2021, 15:25
Surely if a crowd had done that to the White House they would have been met with a hail of automatic weapon fire.
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:24 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken.
Yeah, me too. It seems to me that the initial response was insufficient to cope with the threat posed, for whatever reason.
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken.
Yeah, me too. It seems to me that the initial response was insufficient to cope with the threat posed, for whatever reason.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:25 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
It seems to me that the initial response was insufficient to cope with the threat posed, for whatever reason.
I nominate this as the least controversial post in the history of TNCR.
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:27 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
Tons of people are looking into this, starting yesterday. I don't buy the completely predictable racism narrative but I'd sure like to know what went wrong.