What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?
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@jon-nyc said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:
All the protesters/rioters/domestic terrorists (take your pick) got encouragement. What differed is who did the encouraging.
Exactly. The protesters in the US yesterday are no different than those who rioted in the summer.
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@jon-nyc said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:
@jolly said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:
I see this differently. I think it's a very sad day when citizens are so riled up or aggrieved, they storm the Capitol. I have no problem defending the building or the people inside with deadly force. I think that we have not been as aggressive as needed in more than one Washington incident. Same opinion for other cities, such as Portland.
Nope. THat's not different at all. This part anyway. The difference is, along with the sadness, we have anger directed at the man who did the riling and the enablers that knew better.
Bullshit.
Post after joyous post confirms your absolute orgasmic satisfaction at another Trump loss. It doesn't matter why it happened. It doesn't matter who got hurt, who was killed, why people fought down the halls of the Capitol.
It's all about winning. It's all about power. It's all about Trump or his supporters losing. It's all about MAGAT vermin hitting the floor, isn't it? They got what they deserved, didn't they? After all, people who supported or voted for Trump are idiots. Fools. Imbeciles, drooling as they zombie-shuffle to the voting booth.
Enjoy. Wallow in the shattered glass. Blow up the scenes of the Capitol storming and use them for wall decor. Hell, take the sound recording of the agent's weapon, as he kills a woman in the hallway and use it for the ringtone on your phone.
Enjoy. Enjoy the victory.
But while you're patting yourself on the back after your glorious triumph, do a little introspection. Learn that your vicious hate for Trump or anything associated with him is not good for your soul. Hate eats at a man. It makes him less than what he could be...
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It sounds to me like you really despise us, Jolly.
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@doctor-phibes said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:
It sounds to me like you really despise us, Jolly.
It didn't need to "sound" like anything for the past four years for Trump supporters to realize they were hated, in the true sense of the word hate. It just was. We all contribute to our own social ideas, but you will never find me feeling shame for supporting Trump, after the hatred I watched on display.
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@jon-nyc said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:
Trump incites a riot. I am the evil banality.
A riot you have now devoted more righteous outrage to than any of the longer lasting and wider spread riots in response to the racism narrative that is at least as nonsensical as Trumpism.
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I finally got around to looking at cnn
Boy do they love this
They are reporting 4 deaths in yesterday's deadly riot
Including
"One adult female and two adult males appear to have suffered from separate medical emergencies, which resulted in their deaths. Any loss of life in the District is tragic and our thoughts are with anyone impacted by their loss," Contee said at a news conference Wednesday night.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/us-capitol-lockdown/index.html
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@jolly said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:
Bullshit.
You're just wrong Jolly.
Did I want Trump to get his cummupance? Of course. Would I be happy to see him get expunged by his own cabinet? Yes. Or as you might put it, hell to the yes.
But this was an historic stain on the republic. Yesterday I was just angry and sad.
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@jon-nyc said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:
Yeah, I posted about the 4 deaths yesterday. Or maybe this morning early.
I was about to post again, wondering what the deal was with 3 medical deaths. Seems highly unusual.
Yeah all I heard was 4 deaths and I was horrified and then this morning the caveat came in and I said what the fuck was I played? Yeah 1 is 1 too many but the context for the 4 was played to the hilt. Trust in news down again just as I was willing to listen.
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@doctor-phibes said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:
It sounds to me like you really despise us, Jolly.
Sometimes, I do. Sometimes, I'm ashamed of some of you.
It started with the false Russia dossier and not being up in rhetorical arms about violating the rule of law, our Justice system and perverting the courts for political gain. No matter one's politics, country should come first.
You do what is good for the country. You do what is good for the Constitution.
It doesn't matter who is in the Whitehouse or how much you hate them. Always remember, occupants change, but the basic principles of law and rights remain.
Politics ain't beanbag, but in order for this system of government to function, things have to be as fair and open as possible. The media needs to fulfill its responsibilities as a fair and unbiased reporter of information. National disagreements have to be hammered out on the floors of the Congress or adjudicated in the courts. People need to have faith in the voting system and that simply can't happen with massive mail-in voting.
And some people have to understand that everybody on the other side of the political aisle is not an idiot.