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  • CopperC Offline
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    https://www.wired.com/story/hurling-satellites-into-space/?utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_facebook&utm_brand=wired&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1ND8n8YIz3t2Yq2Y-DAARvVZ7iMq83GKUWIPrUb9p9p6Kb8ZrDF3-a7tg

    Hurling Satellites Into Space Seems Crazy—but Might Just Work

    A startup called SpinLaunch wants to do away with costly launch rockets. Let's look at the physics.

    IT’S OBVIOUS, BUT I'll say it: Rockets are cool. Sending stuff into space with a chemical reaction is just stupid-awesome. But clearly, we can't keep using chemical rockets to put satellites in orbit. They're too expensive, and the fuel is heavy—which means you need even more fuel to carry the fuel.

    So I’m excited about this new proposed launch system, the SpinLaunch. The basic idea is to physically throw a missile off the planet, in much the same way our ancestors hurled rocks with a leather sling. In this case, a giant centrifuge would spin the craft around in a vacuum to build up insane speed, then open a door and release it into the sky.

    But the physicist in me also can’t help being a little skeptical. The challenges here—like air drag, for starters—seem enormous. I’m not saying this thing won’t work, but I want to crunch the numbers myself to see what’s involved. Come on, let's take it for a spin!

    Acceleration Sensation

    Before I get to the calculations, let's look at the details of the system and the physics involved. Here's what I know about SpinLaunch from current specs:

    Launcher spins in a circle with a diameter of 100 meters.

    Payload mass of 100 kilograms, plus maybe another 100 kg for the spacecraft (I assume this is just a small prototype)

    Rotation speed at launch of 450 revolutions per minute

    Launch speed of 7,500 kilometers per hour (4,660 mph)

    Spin-up time of 1.5 hours

    Launch angle at 35 degrees

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    • George KG Offline
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      450 rpm? Isn't that some real stress on the components? What are the g forces at that speed of rotation?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        450 rpm? Isn't that some real stress on the components? What are the g forces at that speed of rotation?

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        @george-k

        F / m= v² / r

        =(2πx50x450 / 60)² / 50

        So... 10,000g

        Seems quite large.

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          @george-k

          F / m= v² / r

          =(2πx50x450 / 60)² / 50

          So... 10,000g

          Seems quite large.

          CopperC Offline
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          @moonbat said in Hurling Satellites Into Space:

          So... 10,000g

          I'll let you go first

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          • CopperC Copper

            @moonbat said in Hurling Satellites Into Space:

            So... 10,000g

            I'll let you go first

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            @copper said in Hurling Satellites Into Space:

            @moonbat said in Hurling Satellites Into Space:

            So... 10,000g

            I'll let you go first

            That's about 25 lb.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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