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"How would you like your steak?"

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #21

    They went about this the exact wrong way and counted on customer reviews and other professional reviews.

    1. Hoss is not even in the same category as the Roadhouses. It’s the modern ponderosa. To be avoided at all costs

    2. Sizzler - Same thing

    3. Outback is weird. They used to be an okay mid-tier offering. Then they got bad. Shut down a lot of stores, and are trying to build up a classier more upscale image. It doesn’t fit the theme of the name and history, but whatever. I would put them with Logan’s and Texas Roadhouse. And the fact that they are ranked just below Ruth’s Chris is kind of offensive. Ruth’s Chris is a complete different level.

    4. Fogo de Chao is overrated. It is fun, and the meats aren’t bad. But the very nature of the way they serve limits how good the meat actually is. Depending on when you get served, you might get all bark, or none. Getting a slice of beef with bark on the outside and rare on the inside is impossible… But the atmosphere and service are great. I would put them below the Morton’s/Ruth’s Chris level but above the more casual shops.

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
      #22

      From best to worse

      1. The Palm

      2. Capitol Grill

      3. Morton’s

      4. Ruth’s Chris

      5. Fogo de Chao

      6. Longhorn

      7. Logan’s

      8. Texas Roadhouse

      9. Outback (though is improving)

      I don’t know a couple of the others…

      There is a clear distinction between the top 4 and others.

      The Brad

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #23

        Forget all those. Come to Cincinnati and go to Jeff Ruby's.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #24

          Don't get around like y'all do. Morton's and Ruth's (old lab rat owned) Chris are usually good. I'd reverse the Logan's and Texas Roadhouse ranking.

          Been awhile since I ate at Outback. The local one does not impress. Besides, the worst steak I ever had in a steakhouse was at an Outback in Anaheim.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #25

            BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #26

              There's a Longhorn's about 2 miles from me. Never tried it. Perhaps I'll place a pickup order.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                #27

                @Jolly said in "How would you like your steak?":

                BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                Nope. I'm with you. Don't care for overly noisy restaurants.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • George KG George K

                  There's a Longhorn's about 2 miles from me. Never tried it. Perhaps I'll place a pickup order.

                  MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #28

                  @George-K said in "How would you like your steak?":

                  There's a Longhorn's about 2 miles from me. Never tried it. Perhaps I'll place a pickup order.

                  I used to eat lunch at Longhorn a lot. They had great chili. Then they discontinued it and I stopped going. It was interesting at the bar because they had a bookie working it, all before legal sports gambling.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG George K

                    There's a Longhorn's about 2 miles from me. Never tried it. Perhaps I'll place a pickup order.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    @George-K said in "How would you like your steak?":

                    There's a Longhorn's about 2 miles from me. Never tried it. Perhaps I'll place a pickup order.

                    Steak is one thing I'd be scared to do pickup or delivery.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @Jolly said in "How would you like your steak?":

                      BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                      Nope. I'm with you. Don't care for overly noisy restaurants.

                      George KG Offline
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                      @Mik said in "How would you like your steak?":

                      @Jolly said in "How would you like your steak?":

                      BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                      Nope. I'm with you. Don't care for overly noisy restaurants.

                      My bluetooth-enabled hearing aids have a "restaurant" setting, so that the mics focus more on the sound coming directly from the front of you, quieting down ambient sounds. It's nice.

                      IMG_0CCABB6859AF-1.jpeg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        From best to worse

                        1. The Palm

                        2. Capitol Grill

                        3. Morton’s

                        4. Ruth’s Chris

                        5. Fogo de Chao

                        6. Longhorn

                        7. Logan’s

                        8. Texas Roadhouse

                        9. Outback (though is improving)

                        I don’t know a couple of the others…

                        There is a clear distinction between the top 4 and others.

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #31

                        @LuFins-Dad said in "How would you like your steak?":

                        From best to worse

                        1. The Palm

                        2. Capitol Grill

                        3. Morton’s

                        4. Ruth’s Chris

                        5. Fogo de Chao

                        6. Longhorn

                        7. Logan’s

                        8. Texas Roadhouse

                        9. Outback (though is improving)

                        Personally, I'd try to go to a locally owned place rather than a big chain. I've been to a a couple of Ruth's Chris and Capital Grille's, and while good I didn't feel like the food justified the price tag.

                        We went to a local Italian place last week for a rare family treat, and Mrs. Doctor Phibes had a filet they were running as a special. It came a little less rare than she asked for, but it was as tender as butter. She let me sample a bit and it was just beautiful.

                        I was only joking

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #32

                          Outside of Ruby's, I've never been to a high end steak place that I thought was worth the money. Ruth's Chris, meh. Morton's, same. Eddie merlot? Substandard. Like you, I prefer the local places.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #33

                            @Jolly said in "How would you like your steak?":

                            BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                            You must be physic!! I just saw the below article.

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/interactive/2024/loud-restaurant-noise-health-effects/

                            Sietsema began recording and publishing decibel levels in his reviews in 2008 in response to reader feedback. More than a decade later, the problem persists. Noise was the most cited complaint in Zagat’s last Dining Trends Survey in 2018, and it continues to dominate the conversation in online restaurant reviews. Sietsema says behind tipping, a quiet restaurant is the most requested piece of advice in his weekly live chat sessions.

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #34

                              I can take quiet music.

                              There was a guy down in Baton Rouge that was a great vocalist. Played guitar and could do anything from country ballads, early Sinatra stuff, to James Taylor and what-not. He used to call my son up to do some percussion and a bit of acoustic bass when he'd play this place:

                              https://www.sullivanssteakhouse.com/baton-rouge/

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                They went about this the exact wrong way and counted on customer reviews and other professional reviews.

                                1. Hoss is not even in the same category as the Roadhouses. It’s the modern ponderosa. To be avoided at all costs

                                2. Sizzler - Same thing

                                3. Outback is weird. They used to be an okay mid-tier offering. Then they got bad. Shut down a lot of stores, and are trying to build up a classier more upscale image. It doesn’t fit the theme of the name and history, but whatever. I would put them with Logan’s and Texas Roadhouse. And the fact that they are ranked just below Ruth’s Chris is kind of offensive. Ruth’s Chris is a complete different level.

                                4. Fogo de Chao is overrated. It is fun, and the meats aren’t bad. But the very nature of the way they serve limits how good the meat actually is. Depending on when you get served, you might get all bark, or none. Getting a slice of beef with bark on the outside and rare on the inside is impossible… But the atmosphere and service are great. I would put them below the Morton’s/Ruth’s Chris level but above the more casual shops.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #35

                                @LuFins-Dad

                                To me a churrascaría and a steak house are two completely different things. I wouldn’t put fogo do chao on the list at all.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  Frankly, I like my steak the best… And it’s simple enough to prepare.

                                  BUT… Karla and my schedules have led to us having to eat out a fair amount. There’s 1-2 nights a week where I meet her and Finley at a restaurant, we have dinner together, then I have to take Finley and she has to go take care of some of her clients…

                                  Since she looooooves steak, that means we go to steak places. Since we aren’t rolling in dough, it means that we’re normally going to the Outback-Longhorn level. There aren’t really any locally owned steakhouses nearby. If I want locally owned restaurant there is a fantastic Italian joint in Reston, a mediocre Italian joint in Sterling but with outstanding service, and a few other Irish and Indian places we like, but not any steakhouses…

                                  The Brad

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
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                                    #37

                                    Longhorn puts a pretty good steak on your plate for a reasonable price. Most folks overlook the workhorse of steaks, the top sirloin. If dry brined it's as good as any steak, usually with better flavor. I also use flat iron steaks a lot, also Fresh Market has a great prime flank steak. Used to do strips and filets most of the time, but the price has gone up and the quality down. All the filets I see now are butt end or glued together, not center cut.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Longhorn puts a pretty good steak on your plate for a reasonable price. Most folks overlook the workhorse of steaks, the top sirloin. If dry brined it's as good as any steak, usually with better flavor. I also use flat iron steaks a lot, also Fresh Market has a great prime flank steak. Used to do strips and filets most of the time, but the price has gone up and the quality down. All the filets I see now are butt end or glued together, not center cut.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #38

                                      @Mik said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                      Longhorn puts a pretty good steak on your plate for a reasonable price. Most folks overlook the workhorse of steaks, the top sirloin. If dry brined it's as good as any steak, usually with better flavor. I also use flat iron steaks a lot, also Fresh Market has a great prime flank steak. Used to do strips and filets most of the time, but the price has gone up and the quality down. All the filets I see now are butt end or glued together, not center cut.

                                      Longhorn’s our favorite at that level not just for the steak, but their sides are a cut above.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @Mik said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                        Longhorn puts a pretty good steak on your plate for a reasonable price. Most folks overlook the workhorse of steaks, the top sirloin. If dry brined it's as good as any steak, usually with better flavor. I also use flat iron steaks a lot, also Fresh Market has a great prime flank steak. Used to do strips and filets most of the time, but the price has gone up and the quality down. All the filets I see now are butt end or glued together, not center cut.

                                        Longhorn’s our favorite at that level not just for the steak, but their sides are a cut above.

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                                        #39

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                        Longhorn’s our favorite at that level not just for the steak, but their sides are a cut above.

                                        Mrs. George and I were talking about the sides - have you ever had their lobster? She'd be curious.

                                        Screenshot 2024-06-10 at 12.07.31 PM.png

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                          Longhorn’s our favorite at that level not just for the steak, but their sides are a cut above.

                                          Mrs. George and I were talking about the sides - have you ever had their lobster? She'd be curious.

                                          Screenshot 2024-06-10 at 12.07.31 PM.png

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                                          @George-K said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                          Longhorn’s our favorite at that level not just for the steak, but their sides are a cut above.

                                          Mrs. George and I were talking about the sides - have you ever had their lobster? She'd be curious.

                                          Screenshot 2024-06-10 at 12.07.31 PM.png

                                          Nope. Karla and Luke liked the shrimp. I think Luke had the lobster tail once. I’ll send him a quick text.

                                          I was referring to their white cheddar stuffed mushrooms, the Brussels sprouts, asparagus, etc…

                                          The Brad

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