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"How would you like your steak?"

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @loki said in "How would you like your steak?":

    @mik said in "How would you like your steak?":

    Well, that's Longhorn. I suspect if you put in some higher end steak places you'd find it different.

    That was thought. Anything more than medium rare is a total waste of good meat. Ruinous and uncalled for actually.

    Yeap. At higher end places I feel more comfortable ordering rare. Also depends on the meat. I have come to prefer medium rare rather than rare for meat with lots of marbling because getting the intramuscular fat heated up a bit more makes the thing more tasty.

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    @axtremus said in "How would you like your steak?":

    @loki said in "How would you like your steak?":

    @mik said in "How would you like your steak?":

    Well, that's Longhorn. I suspect if you put in some higher end steak places you'd find it different.

    That was thought. Anything more than medium rare is a total waste of good meat. Ruinous and uncalled for actually.

    Yeap. At higher end places I feel more comfortable ordering rare. Also depends on the meat. I have come to prefer medium rare rather than rare for meat with lots of marbling because getting the intramuscular fat heated up a bit more makes the thing more tasty.

    I call the intramuscular fat flavor crystals. Many medium and up people like to cut that away too, more shame.

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    • George KG George K

      @loki said in "How would you like your steak?":

      Anything more than medium rare is a total waste of good meat.

      Mrs. George "I want it like a hockey puck" would disagree. I've tried, believe me, I've tried!

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      @george-k said in "How would you like your steak?":

      @loki said in "How would you like your steak?":

      Anything more than medium rare is a total waste of good meat.

      Mrs. George "I want it like a hockey puck" would disagree. I've tried, believe me, I've tried!

      She is correct.

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      • CopperC Copper

        @george-k said in "How would you like your steak?":

        @loki said in "How would you like your steak?":

        Anything more than medium rare is a total waste of good meat.

        Mrs. George "I want it like a hockey puck" would disagree. I've tried, believe me, I've tried!

        She is correct.

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        A Former User
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        #18

        Medium rare for steak. Medium for burgers

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          Aqua Letifer
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          Rare. Just rare.

          Please love yourself.

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            https://www.tastingtable.com/1597100/steakhouse-chains-us-ranked/?zsource=yahoo

            13 Steakhouse Chains In The US, Ranked Worst To Best

            To compile this convenient yet comprehensive rundown, I gathered a lengthy list of steakhouse chains, from casual to fine dining, and narrowed it down to those with about 25 or more franchises. From there, I spoke with meat lovers, read countless reviews, and went back into the Tasting Table archives. I paid attention to more than just steak, though. After all, steakhouses serve patrons everything from burgers to fish to potatoes and veggies.

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              LuFins Dad
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              They went about this the exact wrong way and counted on customer reviews and other professional reviews.

              1. Hoss is not even in the same category as the Roadhouses. It’s the modern ponderosa. To be avoided at all costs

              2. Sizzler - Same thing

              3. Outback is weird. They used to be an okay mid-tier offering. Then they got bad. Shut down a lot of stores, and are trying to build up a classier more upscale image. It doesn’t fit the theme of the name and history, but whatever. I would put them with Logan’s and Texas Roadhouse. And the fact that they are ranked just below Ruth’s Chris is kind of offensive. Ruth’s Chris is a complete different level.

              4. Fogo de Chao is overrated. It is fun, and the meats aren’t bad. But the very nature of the way they serve limits how good the meat actually is. Depending on when you get served, you might get all bark, or none. Getting a slice of beef with bark on the outside and rare on the inside is impossible… But the atmosphere and service are great. I would put them below the Morton’s/Ruth’s Chris level but above the more casual shops.

              The Brad

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                LuFins Dad
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                From best to worse

                1. The Palm

                2. Capitol Grill

                3. Morton’s

                4. Ruth’s Chris

                5. Fogo de Chao

                6. Longhorn

                7. Logan’s

                8. Texas Roadhouse

                9. Outback (though is improving)

                I don’t know a couple of the others…

                There is a clear distinction between the top 4 and others.

                The Brad

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  Forget all those. Come to Cincinnati and go to Jeff Ruby's.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Jolly
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                    Don't get around like y'all do. Morton's and Ruth's (old lab rat owned) Chris are usually good. I'd reverse the Logan's and Texas Roadhouse ranking.

                    Been awhile since I ate at Outback. The local one does not impress. Besides, the worst steak I ever had in a steakhouse was at an Outback in Anaheim.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        There's a Longhorn's about 2 miles from me. Never tried it. Perhaps I'll place a pickup order.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                          MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
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                          @Jolly said in "How would you like your steak?":

                          BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                          Nope. I'm with you. Don't care for overly noisy restaurants.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • George KG George K

                            There's a Longhorn's about 2 miles from me. Never tried it. Perhaps I'll place a pickup order.

                            MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            #28

                            @George-K said in "How would you like your steak?":

                            There's a Longhorn's about 2 miles from me. Never tried it. Perhaps I'll place a pickup order.

                            I used to eat lunch at Longhorn a lot. They had great chili. Then they discontinued it and I stopped going. It was interesting at the bar because they had a bookie working it, all before legal sports gambling.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • George KG George K

                              There's a Longhorn's about 2 miles from me. Never tried it. Perhaps I'll place a pickup order.

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                              Jolly
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                              @George-K said in "How would you like your steak?":

                              There's a Longhorn's about 2 miles from me. Never tried it. Perhaps I'll place a pickup order.

                              Steak is one thing I'd be scared to do pickup or delivery.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • MikM Mik

                                @Jolly said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                                Nope. I'm with you. Don't care for overly noisy restaurants.

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                                George K
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                                @Mik said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                @Jolly said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                                Nope. I'm with you. Don't care for overly noisy restaurants.

                                My bluetooth-enabled hearing aids have a "restaurant" setting, so that the mics focus more on the sound coming directly from the front of you, quieting down ambient sounds. It's nice.

                                IMG_0CCABB6859AF-1.jpeg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  From best to worse

                                  1. The Palm

                                  2. Capitol Grill

                                  3. Morton’s

                                  4. Ruth’s Chris

                                  5. Fogo de Chao

                                  6. Longhorn

                                  7. Logan’s

                                  8. Texas Roadhouse

                                  9. Outback (though is improving)

                                  I don’t know a couple of the others…

                                  There is a clear distinction between the top 4 and others.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                  From best to worse

                                  1. The Palm

                                  2. Capitol Grill

                                  3. Morton’s

                                  4. Ruth’s Chris

                                  5. Fogo de Chao

                                  6. Longhorn

                                  7. Logan’s

                                  8. Texas Roadhouse

                                  9. Outback (though is improving)

                                  Personally, I'd try to go to a locally owned place rather than a big chain. I've been to a a couple of Ruth's Chris and Capital Grille's, and while good I didn't feel like the food justified the price tag.

                                  We went to a local Italian place last week for a rare family treat, and Mrs. Doctor Phibes had a filet they were running as a special. It came a little less rare than she asked for, but it was as tender as butter. She let me sample a bit and it was just beautiful.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
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                                    #32

                                    Outside of Ruby's, I've never been to a high end steak place that I thought was worth the money. Ruth's Chris, meh. Morton's, same. Eddie merlot? Substandard. Like you, I prefer the local places.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

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                                      @Jolly said in "How would you like your steak?":

                                      BTW, is it just me that can't stand the noisy "roadhouse atmosphere"?

                                      You must be physic!! I just saw the below article.

                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/interactive/2024/loud-restaurant-noise-health-effects/

                                      Sietsema began recording and publishing decibel levels in his reviews in 2008 in response to reader feedback. More than a decade later, the problem persists. Noise was the most cited complaint in Zagat’s last Dining Trends Survey in 2018, and it continues to dominate the conversation in online restaurant reviews. Sietsema says behind tipping, a quiet restaurant is the most requested piece of advice in his weekly live chat sessions.

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                                        Jolly
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                                        #34

                                        I can take quiet music.

                                        There was a guy down in Baton Rouge that was a great vocalist. Played guitar and could do anything from country ballads, early Sinatra stuff, to James Taylor and what-not. He used to call my son up to do some percussion and a bit of acoustic bass when he'd play this place:

                                        https://www.sullivanssteakhouse.com/baton-rouge/

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          They went about this the exact wrong way and counted on customer reviews and other professional reviews.

                                          1. Hoss is not even in the same category as the Roadhouses. It’s the modern ponderosa. To be avoided at all costs

                                          2. Sizzler - Same thing

                                          3. Outback is weird. They used to be an okay mid-tier offering. Then they got bad. Shut down a lot of stores, and are trying to build up a classier more upscale image. It doesn’t fit the theme of the name and history, but whatever. I would put them with Logan’s and Texas Roadhouse. And the fact that they are ranked just below Ruth’s Chris is kind of offensive. Ruth’s Chris is a complete different level.

                                          4. Fogo de Chao is overrated. It is fun, and the meats aren’t bad. But the very nature of the way they serve limits how good the meat actually is. Depending on when you get served, you might get all bark, or none. Getting a slice of beef with bark on the outside and rare on the inside is impossible… But the atmosphere and service are great. I would put them below the Morton’s/Ruth’s Chris level but above the more casual shops.

                                          jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          @LuFins-Dad

                                          To me a churrascaría and a steak house are two completely different things. I wouldn’t put fogo do chao on the list at all.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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