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  • M mark
    1 Jan 2021, 18:00

    Still have people I know, telling me that it's just a bad cold.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 18:16 last edited by
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    @mark said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

    Still have people I know, telling me that it's just a bad cold.

    That's because for many, that's all it is. When people don't see or experience the bad cases, they don't understand.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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      Mik
      wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 18:26 last edited by
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      Does not bode well for my trip in February.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • J jon-nyc
        1 Jan 2021, 17:51

        Read the thread.

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        Loki
        wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 18:35 last edited by
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        Not too long ago it was all about the Midwest. I called BS on that and suddenly things got quiet when blue states spiked. Now we are back to this?

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          Copper
          wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 18:47 last edited by
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          Yes, there is definitely a difference between red and blue state reporting

          Cheerleading might be a better word

          When the red state is in trouble the blues shout it just a little louder

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            Horace
            wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 18:52 last edited by
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            The sheep will still be sheep. I wonder what excuse they'll use for the conformance of their hatreds, after Trump is gone. They'll be questions in search of answers, but, as always, only surrounded by those who are programmed to nod in unison regardless of what answer is invented. We'll see which answer that is.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • H Horace
              1 Jan 2021, 18:52

              The sheep will still be sheep. I wonder what excuse they'll use for the conformance of their hatreds, after Trump is gone. They'll be questions in search of answers, but, as always, only surrounded by those who are programmed to nod in unison regardless of what answer is invented. We'll see which answer that is.

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              Loki
              wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 18:54 last edited by
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              @horace said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

              The sheep will still be sheep. I wonder what excuse they'll use for the conformance of their hatreds, after Trump is gone. They'll be questions in search of answers, but, as always, only surrounded by those who are programmed to nod in unison regardless of what answer is invented. We'll see which answer that is.

              I can’t wait for 20 days from now. I will have 4 years of material to use, theirs.

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              • H Horace
                1 Jan 2021, 18:52

                The sheep will still be sheep. I wonder what excuse they'll use for the conformance of their hatreds, after Trump is gone. They'll be questions in search of answers, but, as always, only surrounded by those who are programmed to nod in unison regardless of what answer is invented. We'll see which answer that is.

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                Copper
                wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 19:00 last edited by
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                @horace said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

                I wonder what excuse they'll use for the conformance of their hatreds, after Trump is gone.

                That isn't going to happen.

                They are still complaining that Lincoln didn't do Emancipation properly.

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                • J Jolly
                  1 Jan 2021, 18:16

                  @mark said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

                  Still have people I know, telling me that it's just a bad cold.

                  That's because for many, that's all it is. When people don't see or experience the bad cases, they don't understand.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 19:24 last edited by Horace 1 Jan 2021, 19:43
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                  @jolly said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

                  @mark said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

                  Still have people I know, telling me that it's just a bad cold.

                  That's because for many, that's all it is. When people don't see or experience the bad cases, they don't understand.

                  It's completely within reason for many individuals to weigh the risks and rewards of not taking the virus so seriously. We've convinced ourselves we know the righteous path, but it's not so cut and dried. It's just group think, and the fact that those who conform to the groupthink have the podium. Or soap box. I've watched my elderly parents accept the risk. And I've watched the righteous defenders of COVID hawkishness imply that they are just wrong to weigh their expectation of lost life expectancy against their own quality of the remainder of their life.

                  Sorry, forgot to mention that "it's not one's own risk, but the risk you pose to others". That's what I'm supposed to recite. Again, I suggest that those who are terrified of getting COVID, modify your own life drastically. Don't put that on everybody else. I'm willing to wear a mask. I'm not willing to take on your terror though.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • H Horace
                    1 Jan 2021, 19:24

                    @jolly said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

                    @mark said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

                    Still have people I know, telling me that it's just a bad cold.

                    That's because for many, that's all it is. When people don't see or experience the bad cases, they don't understand.

                    It's completely within reason for many individuals to weigh the risks and rewards of not taking the virus so seriously. We've convinced ourselves we know the righteous path, but it's not so cut and dried. It's just group think, and the fact that those who conform to the groupthink have the podium. Or soap box. I've watched my elderly parents accept the risk. And I've watched the righteous defenders of COVID hawkishness imply that they are just wrong to weigh their expectation of lost life expectancy against their own quality of the remainder of their life.

                    Sorry, forgot to mention that "it's not one's own risk, but the risk you pose to others". That's what I'm supposed to recite. Again, I suggest that those who are terrified of getting COVID, modify your own life drastically. Don't put that on everybody else. I'm willing to wear a mask. I'm not willing to take on your terror though.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 19:56 last edited by
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                    @horace yup. I do what I do because of my own situation and those I care about. That’s really the equation for everyone. Conclusions will vary from group to group.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • H Horace
                      1 Jan 2021, 19:24

                      @jolly said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

                      @mark said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

                      Still have people I know, telling me that it's just a bad cold.

                      That's because for many, that's all it is. When people don't see or experience the bad cases, they don't understand.

                      It's completely within reason for many individuals to weigh the risks and rewards of not taking the virus so seriously. We've convinced ourselves we know the righteous path, but it's not so cut and dried. It's just group think, and the fact that those who conform to the groupthink have the podium. Or soap box. I've watched my elderly parents accept the risk. And I've watched the righteous defenders of COVID hawkishness imply that they are just wrong to weigh their expectation of lost life expectancy against their own quality of the remainder of their life.

                      Sorry, forgot to mention that "it's not one's own risk, but the risk you pose to others". That's what I'm supposed to recite. Again, I suggest that those who are terrified of getting COVID, modify your own life drastically. Don't put that on everybody else. I'm willing to wear a mask. I'm not willing to take on your terror though.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 19:56 last edited by
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                      @horace said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

                      It's completely within reason for many individuals to weigh the risks and rewards of not taking the virus so seriously. We've convinced ourselves we know the righteous path, but it's not so cut and dried. It's just group think, and the fact that those who conform to the groupthink have the podium. Or soap box. I've watched my elderly parents accept the risk. And I've watched the righteous defenders of COVID hawkishness imply that they are just wrong to weigh their expectation of lost life expectancy against their own quality of the remainder of their life.

                      Acknowledging that personal choices are personal doesn't absolve you from making horseshit personal choices, just like reciting "just bein' honest" doesn't make you not an asshole.

                      My parents are kinda-sorta staying safe, even though they stand a pretty good chance of getting wrecked and/or dead from the virus. But they've waited a long time to retire, they want to enjoy themselves, and so, yeah, fuck it, they're taking risks I personally wouldn't be comfortable with but I don't blame them.

                      My FIL on the other hand has gone through many, many surgeries in the past year because his kidneys are failing him. He's a pretty old, pretty big guy, with lots of health complications. His family is doing basically nothing to keep him safe, and he's not taking it entirely seriously himself. If he had a death wish, that'd be one thing maybe, but no, I'm going to go ahead and call their behavior reckless. That this makes me sound like a virtue-signaler I care not a damn. They're not taking care of him, period.

                      Sorry, forgot to mention that "it's not one's own risk, but the risk you pose to others". That's what I'm supposed to recite.

                      ...I'm willing to wear a mask.

                      That's literally what they mean about "the risk you pose to others." You're wearing a mask. I don't see what further public expectations could be made without those expectations becoming unreasonable.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • J Jolly
                        1 Jan 2021, 18:15

                        And it quickly dissolves into political horse shit.

                        One of the reasons Twitter threads are not worth following...

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 2 Jan 2021, 02:12 last edited by jon-nyc 1 Feb 2021, 02:12
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                        @jolly said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

                        And it quickly dissolves into political horse shit.

                        When talking about twitter, if someone says ‘read the whole thread’ they’re talking about the guy’s string of tweets. Not all the randos replying afterward.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 2 Jan 2021, 17:05 last edited by
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            2 Jan 2021, 17:05

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                            Loki
                            wrote on 2 Jan 2021, 17:28 last edited by
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                            @george-k said in Meanwhile in Alabama:

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                            People have been looking for patterns from the beginning...always based on politics....and they never hold. One of the great fallacies of this virus....and they are always from the “science” people.

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