You can’t make this stuff up
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wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 20:26 last edited by
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wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 20:29 last edited by bachophile
“ But this occurrence provides our leadership team an important opportunity to review and improve the safety and process of vaccination for each West Virginian."
If it wasn’t so sad, I’d be laughing my ass off
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wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 20:37 last edited by jon-nyc
In parts of Florida the health department just announced first come first serve for seniors.
So they were camping out overnight. Many unmasked. A total clusterfuck. Other Florida counties did a better job of it.
“This is worth it,” said 80-year-old Aaron Stern, who said he’d never camped out for concert tickets or Black Friday deals.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/30/florida-seniors-camp-in-line-overnight-for-covid-19-vaccine/
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wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 20:38 last edited by
Jesus.
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wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 20:45 last edited by
@bachophile said in You can’t make this stuff up:
Talk about vaccine rollout fuck ups
And 40 nameless people who aren't going to get Regeneron, which is still in limited supply.
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wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 21:23 last edited by
Unfortunately way too common.
Medication errors harm an estimated 1.5 million people every year, costing at least $3.5 billion annually (20) (N).Sep 7, 2016
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wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 04:35 last edited by
Doses were on the verge of expiring so they gave them to all comers.
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Doses were on the verge of expiring so they gave them to all comers.
wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 05:45 last edited by@jon-nyc btw that’s done here if a vaccination center is, for some reason low on people coming, and doses about to expire, the municipality sends a Whatspp message to all its residents saying anyone who can to come for a shot. I even heard of one place who had one shot remaining and saw a pizza delivery guy outside and draggged him in for its final dose of the day. No shot gets undelivered.
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In parts of Florida the health department just announced first come first serve for seniors.
So they were camping out overnight. Many unmasked. A total clusterfuck. Other Florida counties did a better job of it.
“This is worth it,” said 80-year-old Aaron Stern, who said he’d never camped out for concert tickets or Black Friday deals.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/30/florida-seniors-camp-in-line-overnight-for-covid-19-vaccine/
wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 09:38 last edited by@jon-nyc said in You can’t make this stuff up:
So they were camping out overnight.
Brings up the question whether the vaccine would already help if they got infected shortly before.
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@jon-nyc btw that’s done here if a vaccination center is, for some reason low on people coming, and doses about to expire, the municipality sends a Whatspp message to all its residents saying anyone who can to come for a shot. I even heard of one place who had one shot remaining and saw a pizza delivery guy outside and draggged him in for its final dose of the day. No shot gets undelivered.
wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 10:56 last edited by@bachophile said in You can’t make this stuff up:
@jon-nyc btw that’s done here if a vaccination center is, for some reason low on people coming, and doses about to expire, the municipality sends a Whatspp message to all its residents saying anyone who can to come for a shot. I even heard of one place who had one shot remaining and saw a pizza delivery guy outside and draggged him in for its final dose of the day. No shot gets undelivered.
It’s clearly the right thing to as opposed to waste the shot, but it seems like it should be avoidable? I get that some of these specialized freezer containers for the Pfizer vaccine hold a set amount of doses and not every location is large. But I knew about that in October, why didn’t they?
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@bachophile said in You can’t make this stuff up:
@jon-nyc btw that’s done here if a vaccination center is, for some reason low on people coming, and doses about to expire, the municipality sends a Whatspp message to all its residents saying anyone who can to come for a shot. I even heard of one place who had one shot remaining and saw a pizza delivery guy outside and draggged him in for its final dose of the day. No shot gets undelivered.
It’s clearly the right thing to as opposed to waste the shot, but it seems like it should be avoidable? I get that some of these specialized freezer containers for the Pfizer vaccine hold a set amount of doses and not every location is large. But I knew about that in October, why didn’t they?
wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 12:22 last edited by@jon-nyc because people are unpredictable.
U can’t always know the percentage of people who defer vaccinations for whatever reason, pregnancies, allergies, or just on principle.
You can assume a vaccination rate, say 70% but u can’t plan down to the individual dose
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wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 12:24 last edited by jon-nyc 1 Jan 2021, 12:26
Of course not but you can manage a list of candidates that’s larger than your expected dosage allotment. That’s just staying a little bit ahead on that task.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 03:14 last edited by
How to make sure soon-to-expire vaccines end up in the trash:
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wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 03:19 last edited by
Get the vaccine out
Worry about a few cheaters later
And don't punish the people trying to do the job
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Get the vaccine out
Worry about a few cheaters later
And don't punish the people trying to do the job
wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 03:30 last edited by Loki 1 Mar 2021, 03:31@copper said in You can’t make this stuff up:
Get the vaccine out
Worry about a few cheaters later
And don't punish the people trying to do the job
Eye on the prize. Make the pie bigger as opposed to re-allocating the little one right now. I just don’t get it.
If this is the crisis of the century follow the UK lead. It’s so weird.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 04:06 last edited by
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@copper said in You can’t make this stuff up:
Get the vaccine out
Worry about a few cheaters later
And don't punish the people trying to do the job
Eye on the prize. Make the pie bigger as opposed to re-allocating the little one right now. I just don’t get it.
If this is the crisis of the century follow the UK lead. It’s so weird.
wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 04:15 last edited by@loki said in You can’t make this stuff up:
@copper said in You can’t make this stuff up:
Get the vaccine out
Worry about a few cheaters later
And don't punish the people trying to do the job
Eye on the prize. Make the pie bigger as opposed to re-allocating the little one right now. I just don’t get it.
If this is the crisis of the century follow the UK lead. It’s so weird.
Odd how silent Trump has been about this. Other than his one ‘not my problem’ tweet a few days ago.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 04:19 last edited by jon-nyc 1 Mar 2021, 04:20
But I do think you are underestimating the impact of using politics rather than epidemiology to determine the vaccine prioritization. We really are putting tens of millions of young, healthy people in front of those that are truly at risk.
Given the number of vaccines we have, it is a delay measured in months not days or weeks for that at-risk population.
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But I do think you are underestimating the impact of using politics rather than epidemiology to determine the vaccine prioritization. We really are putting tens of millions of young, healthy people in front of those that are truly at risk.
Given the number of vaccines we have, it is a delay measured in months not days or weeks for that at-risk population.
wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 12:58 last edited by@jon-nyc said in You can’t make this stuff up:
But I do think you are underestimating the impact of using politics rather than epidemiology to determine the vaccine prioritization. We really are putting tens of millions of young, healthy people in front of those that are truly at risk.
Given the number of vaccines we have, it is a delay measured in months not days or weeks for that at-risk population.
Many argue those are the super spreaders. Rather than argue that just give me and any who sign off on it the astra zeneca vaccine. That vaccine alone sounds like could save 100k lives the way things are going. I refuse to believe anymore there is a real priority on saving lives. And the articles over who got or didn’t get the vaccine while Rome is burning is one of the strangest things I have seen in my life.
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