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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @jolly
    Beauregard, it doesn't matter how I get my information, but you're right on that when I do get my information, I'll have no truck at all with reactionary Christian organisations' websites or publications such as Lifesite News.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/

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    Jolly
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    #19

    @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

    @jolly
    Beauregard, it doesn't matter how I get my information, but you're right on that when I do get my information, I'll have no truck at all with reactionary Christian organisations' websites or publications such as Lifesite News.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/*

    Again, you're attacking the website, not the studies.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

    bachophileB RenaudaR 2 Replies Last reply
    • JollyJ Jolly

      @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

      @jolly
      Beauregard, it doesn't matter how I get my information, but you're right on that when I do get my information, I'll have no truck at all with reactionary Christian organisations' websites or publications such as Lifesite News.

      https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/*

      Again, you're attacking the website, not the studies.

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      bachophile
      wrote on last edited by
      #20

      @jolly the web site deserves attack

      They purposely misrepresent in the name of ideological nonsense.

      That’s evil

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @renauda

        Interesting site.

        It puts Reuters, the FT, and The Economist under 'least biased'. WaPo/NYT Left Center, WSJ Right Center, MSNBC Left, Fox News Right.

        Seems reasonable.

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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #21

        @jon-nyc

        Here's the link to its homepage.

        https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

        Elbows up!

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

          @jolly
          Beauregard, it doesn't matter how I get my information, but you're right on that when I do get my information, I'll have no truck at all with reactionary Christian organisations' websites or publications such as Lifesite News.

          https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/*

          Again, you're attacking the website, not the studies.

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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #22

          @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

          @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

          @jolly
          Beauregard, it doesn't matter how I get my information, but you're right on that when I do get my information, I'll have no truck at all with reactionary Christian organisations' websites or publications such as Lifesite News.

          https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/*

          Again, you're attacking the website, not the studies.

          Indeed I am attacking the website. However, bach has more than sufficiently excoriated the website in all its mendacities for me to add further comment.

          Elbows up!

          JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

            @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

            @jolly
            Beauregard, it doesn't matter how I get my information, but you're right on that when I do get my information, I'll have no truck at all with reactionary Christian organisations' websites or publications such as Lifesite News.

            https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/*

            Again, you're attacking the website, not the studies.

            Indeed I am attacking the website. However, bach has more than sufficiently excoriated the website in all its mendacities for me to add further comment.

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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #23

            @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

            @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

            @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

            @jolly
            Beauregard, it doesn't matter how I get my information, but you're right on that when I do get my information, I'll have no truck at all with reactionary Christian organisations' websites or publications such as Lifesite News.

            https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/*

            Again, you're attacking the website, not the studies.

            Indeed I am attacking it however bach has more than sufficiently excoriated the website in all its mendacities for me to add further comment.

            Once again, you're attacking the website, without saying a word about the studies. Is that willful ignorance or just snobbery? The studies referenced are not religious in any way.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

              @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

              @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

              @jolly
              Beauregard, it doesn't matter how I get my information, but you're right on that when I do get my information, I'll have no truck at all with reactionary Christian organisations' websites or publications such as Lifesite News.

              https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/*

              Again, you're attacking the website, not the studies.

              Indeed I am attacking it however bach has more than sufficiently excoriated the website in all its mendacities for me to add further comment.

              Once again, you're attacking the website, without saying a word about the studies. Is that willful ignorance or just snobbery? The studies referenced are not religious in any way.

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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #24

              @jolly

              Whether it's ignorance or snobbery or just plain old anti-clericalism is irrelevant. I am attacking it for precisely the same reason bach laid bare its false witness of the study. Full stop.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @jolly

                Whether it's ignorance or snobbery or just plain old anti-clericalism is irrelevant. I am attacking it for precisely the same reason bach laid bare its false witness of the study. Full stop.

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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #25

                @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                @jolly

                Whether it's ignorance or snobbery or just plain old anti-clericalism is irrelevant. I am attacking it for precisely the same reason bach laid bare its false witness of the study. Full stop.

                Then you are as much of a fruitcake as anything you accuse them if being. You may not like Christianity, or you can despise the views of a website that promotes human life. But do not let your venom dissuade you from reviewing non-biased data.

                That's the bottom line.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                AxtremusA RenaudaR 2 Replies Last reply
                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                  @jolly

                  Whether it's ignorance or snobbery or just plain old anti-clericalism is irrelevant. I am attacking it for precisely the same reason bach laid bare its false witness of the study. Full stop.

                  Then you are as much of a fruitcake as anything you accuse them if being. You may not like Christianity, or you can despise the views of a website that promotes human life. But do not let your venom dissuade you from reviewing non-biased data.

                  That's the bottom line.

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #26

                  @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                  But do not let your venom dissuade you from reviewing non-biased data.

                  It’s easy: next time you want people to focus on the data or the underlying study, just post that study.

                  Unless you actually want people to read that website’s (mis)interpretation of the data, why link to that website at all? Just link straight to the data from the get go and you would not need to tell people to review the data like you do now.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #27

                    There are viable vaccines now for covid

                    covid has lost

                    it's all over

                    it is just a matter of time to distribute the vaccine

                    Is it treasonous for people to still say that covid is deadly?

                    Or should we wait for the process run it's course?

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      There are viable vaccines now for covid

                      covid has lost

                      it's all over

                      it is just a matter of time to distribute the vaccine

                      Is it treasonous for people to still say that covid is deadly?

                      Or should we wait for the process run it's course?

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                      bachophile
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #28

                      @copper actually it’s not over.

                      If the vaccine rollout is not keeping pace with infections many many more people are going to die in 2021

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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #29

                        We're not even close to done yet. Luckily my MIL will get first dose next week. My first hope is her assisted living place opens back up where we can visit.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                          @jolly

                          Whether it's ignorance or snobbery or just plain old anti-clericalism is irrelevant. I am attacking it for precisely the same reason bach laid bare its false witness of the study. Full stop.

                          Then you are as much of a fruitcake as anything you accuse them if being. You may not like Christianity, or you can despise the views of a website that promotes human life. But do not let your venom dissuade you from reviewing non-biased data.

                          That's the bottom line.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #30

                          @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                          That's the bottom line.

                          Let me quote John Cleese:

                          "Oh I see now, it's all about bottoms. Of course, it's always about bottoms with your lot."

                          Elbows up!

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #31

                            I think the point is that the article originally posted is willfully misleading and potentially very dangerous.

                            Enough people have died of this awful disease already without more misinformation being spread. These so-called Christians should be ashamed of themselves.

                            I was only joking

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                              xenon
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #32

                              This claim is also not difficult to debunk at all. For people who test positive but are asymptomatic - all you need to do is check the viral load in their nasal cavities.

                              This has been done. It’s the same viral load as people with symptoms.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                But do not let your venom dissuade you from reviewing non-biased data.

                                It’s easy: next time you want people to focus on the data or the underlying study, just post that study.

                                Unless you actually want people to read that website’s (mis)interpretation of the data, why link to that website at all? Just link straight to the data from the get go and you would not need to tell people to review the data like you do now.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #33

                                @axtremus said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                But do not let your venom dissuade you from reviewing non-biased data.

                                It’s easy: next time you want people to focus on the data or the underlying study, just post that study.

                                Unless you actually want people to read that website’s (mis)interpretation of the data, why link to that website at all? Just link straight to the data from the get go and you would not need to tell people to review the data like you do now.

                                First thing I saw, so first thing I linked. The article had a direct link to the study.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                                • X xenon

                                  This claim is also not difficult to debunk at all. For people who test positive but are asymptomatic - all you need to do is check the viral load in their nasal cavities.

                                  This has been done. It’s the same viral load as people with symptoms.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #34

                                  @xenon said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                  This claim is also not difficult to debunk at all. For people who test positive but are asymptomatic - all you need to do is check the viral load in their nasal cavities.

                                  This has been done. It’s the same viral load as people with symptoms.

                                  What about the Chinese study published in Nature?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @axtremus said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                    @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                    But do not let your venom dissuade you from reviewing non-biased data.

                                    It’s easy: next time you want people to focus on the data or the underlying study, just post that study.

                                    Unless you actually want people to read that website’s (mis)interpretation of the data, why link to that website at all? Just link straight to the data from the get go and you would not need to tell people to review the data like you do now.

                                    First thing I saw, so first thing I linked. The article had a direct link to the study.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #35

                                    @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                    First thing I saw, so first thing I linked. The article had a direct link to the study.

                                    But you never thought to comment that the Lifesite News article was not accurately representing the findings of the study. That leads me to believe that perhaps you too didn't go to the link and read the study either.

                                    BTW, since you were on about bottoms earlier, did you ever offer a rebuttal to what bach posted about this article?

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                      First thing I saw, so first thing I linked. The article had a direct link to the study.

                                      But you never thought to comment that the Lifesite News article was not accurately representing the findings of the study. That leads me to believe that perhaps you too didn't go to the link and read the study either.

                                      BTW, since you were on about bottoms earlier, did you ever offer a rebuttal to what bach posted about this article?

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #36

                                      @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                      @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                      First thing I saw, so first thing I linked. The article had a direct link to the study.

                                      But you never thought to comment that the Lifesite News article was not accurately representing the findings of the study. That leads me to believe that you didn't go to the link and read the study any more than I did.

                                      BTW, since you were on about bottoms earlier, did you ever offer a rebuttal to what bach posted about this article?

                                      No, I read both studies.

                                      Did you?

                                      Besides, I've linked Lifesite before. Yes, they have an agenda, but not anymore than other sites that are linked here. Seeing how much interest I've generated, I think I'll link them more often.😛😛😛

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                        @jolly said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                        First thing I saw, so first thing I linked. The article had a direct link to the study.

                                        But you never thought to comment that the Lifesite News article was not accurately representing the findings of the study. That leads me to believe that you didn't go to the link and read the study any more than I did.

                                        BTW, since you were on about bottoms earlier, did you ever offer a rebuttal to what bach posted about this article?

                                        No, I read both studies.

                                        Did you?

                                        Besides, I've linked Lifesite before. Yes, they have an agenda, but not anymore than other sites that are linked here. Seeing how much interest I've generated, I think I'll link them more often.😛😛😛

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #37

                                        @jolly

                                        No, I just read the article. That was enough for me to lose complete interest.

                                        Say, how's that rebuttal to bach's post coming along?

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @jolly

                                          No, I just read the article. That was enough for me to lose complete interest.

                                          Say, how's that rebuttal to bach's post coming along?

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #38

                                          @renauda said in No asymptomatic spread?:

                                          @jolly

                                          No, I just read the article. That was enough for me to lose complete interest.

                                          Say, how's that rebuttal to bach's post coming along?

                                          What rebuttal would you like to hear?

                                          Secondly, before you make a total ass out of yourself, why don't you go through the two studies and give a measured opinion?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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