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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    My SIL. As many know, she had a bad case of COVID last March, leaving her with an anterior MI and some lung scarring. As a nurse, she was targeted for the Pfizer vaccine in the first wave. After consultation with a team of doctors at the hospital, they advised her to take the vaccine.

    Result? 102 fever. Loss of taste. Diarrhea. Fatigue and body ache. Knocked her on her butt. Very much like early, severe COVID symptoms.

    The case is currently being investigated by the CDC. There is also some peripheral FDA involvement. BTW, she wasn't the only one. One other nurse also experienced similar symptoms. That made two out of one thousand doses given at her hospital (The Lake is a big hospital). In both cases, the recipient had had a severe case of COVID back in the early spring.

    I am happy to report my SIL is fever-free as of yesterday, sense of taste is returning and she is feeling better. But the vaccine put her down for almost a week. PCR tests are pending.

    If this is not an isolated incident, it might change recommendations on who gets the vaccine and who doesn't. Perhaps some people who had severe cases of COVID have more immunity than what was previously thought.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Addendum...Just got off the phone with her. CDC has informed her they are seeing reports of this from all over the country from previously infected healthcare workers.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • markM Offline
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        mark
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        Ugh. The people we rely on the most in times like this, don't need this shit.

        They truly are the front line warriors.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          I told D2 about this...

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            I’m surprised that an antibody test isn’t required first for those that had COVID. The study in November indicated surprising long term immunity.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              I’m surprised that an antibody test isn’t required first for those that had COVID. The study in November indicated surprising long term immunity.

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              George K
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              @lufins-dad

              D2, two weeks ago:

              Screen Shot 2020-12-25 at 11.00.21 AM.png

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @lufins-dad

                D2, two weeks ago:

                Screen Shot 2020-12-25 at 11.00.21 AM.png

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                @george-k said in CDC:

                @lufins-dad

                D2, two weeks ago:

                Screen Shot 2020-12-25 at 11.00.21 AM.png

                I remember... The thing is, if I remember the study correctly, there was an initial big decrease in antibodies, but their remained a smaller number of more powerful antibodies that showed great staying power.

                People saw the initial drop in antibodies assumed that they would continue to decrease at the same rate. That’s not what has happened in a large number of cases.

                The Brad

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                  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.html

                  The Brad

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    It seems odd that existing antibodies would cause you to get sick again. Seems counterintuitive.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      It seems odd that existing antibodies would cause you to get sick again. Seems counterintuitive.

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                      @mik said in CDC:

                      It seems odd that existing antibodies would cause you to get sick again. Seems counterintuitive.

                      Remember that these aren’t your typical vaccines. They train your cells to attack the protein spikes of the Coronavirus by making some cells grow the protein spikes and mimic the virus. I can see how the existing antibodies wouldn’t like those....

                      The Brad

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        Saw SIL today. Her PCR is not back, but we made the decision that she would be fine to drive up for Christmas. She feels fine today, no symptoms of any kind.

                        That was one heckuva immune response...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          Saw SIL today. Her PCR is not back, but we made the decision that she would be fine to drive up for Christmas. She feels fine today, no symptoms of any kind.

                          That was one heckuva immune response...

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                          George K
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                          @jolly Wow.

                          I'd love to hear the docs' take on this one.

                          Glad she's OK!

                          (I'm forwarding these posts to D2)

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Would be nice to know what levels of antibodies the people had who had the reactions - both Steve and I still have antibodies, he has more than me - but no idea if our levels are medium, high , or low. He is higher up on the list for the vaccine than I am - hopefully we will know more by then.

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                              ![alt text](1fe4e664-4649-4d4b-859a-60ad65f0a79c-image.png image url)

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                                ![alt text](1fe4e664-4649-4d4b-859a-60ad65f0a79c-image.png image url)

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                                @copper That’s hilarious! 😁😁😁

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