The Charlie Kushner pardon
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:21 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
On Kushner:
Yeah that’s really awful but it’s not germane to any point of someone pardoning their son in laws dad. I think people would get that.
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I think we talked about the Kushner story. It supposedly tanked Christie’s chances in the new administration.
wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:23 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
I think we talked about the Kushner story. It supposedly tanked Christie’s chances in the new administration.
For which Christie is likely grateful now.
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More about Chris Collins:
According to the federal government, on June 22, 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins. The e-mail explained that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins allegedly received this news while attending a picnic at the White House and, upon seeing the email, immediately phoned his son and instructed him to sell shares in the company. According to the allegations, the sale allowed Collins and his family to avoid around $570,000 in losses. The shares eventually dropped around 90% once news about the drug trial became public.[69]
wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:31 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
More about Chris Collins:
According to the federal government, on June 22, 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins. The e-mail explained that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins allegedly received this news while attending a picnic at the White House and, upon seeing the email, immediately phoned his son and instructed him to sell shares in the company. According to the allegations, the sale allowed Collins and his family to avoid around $570,000 in losses. The shares eventually dropped around 90% once news about the drug trial became public.[69]
Imagine being a sitting US representative and risking prison and career destruction for 600k.
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@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
More about Chris Collins:
According to the federal government, on June 22, 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins. The e-mail explained that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins allegedly received this news while attending a picnic at the White House and, upon seeing the email, immediately phoned his son and instructed him to sell shares in the company. According to the allegations, the sale allowed Collins and his family to avoid around $570,000 in losses. The shares eventually dropped around 90% once news about the drug trial became public.[69]
Imagine being a sitting US representative and risking prison and career destruction for 600k.
wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:33 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
More about Chris Collins:
According to the federal government, on June 22, 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins. The e-mail explained that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins allegedly received this news while attending a picnic at the White House and, upon seeing the email, immediately phoned his son and instructed him to sell shares in the company. According to the allegations, the sale allowed Collins and his family to avoid around $570,000 in losses. The shares eventually dropped around 90% once news about the drug trial became public.[69]
Imagine being a sitting US representative and risking prison and career destruction for 600k.
I’m not following?
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@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
More about Chris Collins:
According to the federal government, on June 22, 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins. The e-mail explained that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins allegedly received this news while attending a picnic at the White House and, upon seeing the email, immediately phoned his son and instructed him to sell shares in the company. According to the allegations, the sale allowed Collins and his family to avoid around $570,000 in losses. The shares eventually dropped around 90% once news about the drug trial became public.[69]
Imagine being a sitting US representative and risking prison and career destruction for 600k.
I’m not following?
wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:38 last edited by@loki said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
I’m not following?
He committed a crime to prevent losing <600k. Risking prison and career destruction.
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@loki said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
I’m not following?
He committed a crime to prevent losing <600k. Risking prison and career destruction.
wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:41 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
@loki said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
I’m not following?
He committed a crime to prevent losing <600k. Risking prison and career destruction.
Yeah but it’s more common than it should be, no?
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 04:12 last edited by
Yeah. I guess.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 04:14 last edited by jon-nyc
My guess is some of these guys aren’t done. Prolly some pissed off law enforcement agents and prosecutors out there tonight. I suspect some of these men will be hunted. OJ redux.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 05:07 last edited by
The phrase 'what a bunch of cunts' has leapt, unbidden, into my mind.
And for some reason it refuses to leave.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 12:35 last edited by
Dang, the Trump supporters must be so embarrassed now.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 12:38 last edited by
Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 13:10 last edited by
I had no idea that Christie was the prosecutor:
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 15:51 last edited by
All it takes to be a Trump supporter is hatred for Ms. Clinton
It's no different than being a Biden supporter
It is impossible for anyone to think Mr. Biden could be a good president
But hating Mr. Trump is easy for so many
You eat what is put in front of you.
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Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.
wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 18:31 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.
this
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@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.
this
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 18:51 last edited by
@nobodyssock said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/24/trump-worst-president-cuomo-open-cpt-vpx.cnn
Mr. Trump is the worst president ever because he doesn't like this give-away
This is certainly one of the most brilliant observations ever
Thank you so much for posting it here
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Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.
wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 18:55 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.
I’m still glad he won in 2016 and I continue to believe TDS showed and shows a lot of elitist asses. It’s unfortunate he is spinning these fraud claims. It’s foolish.
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@nobodyssock said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/24/trump-worst-president-cuomo-open-cpt-vpx.cnn
Mr. Trump is the worst president ever because he doesn't like this give-away
This is certainly one of the most brilliant observations ever
Thank you so much for posting it here

wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 19:03 last edited by@copper said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
@nobodyssock said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/24/trump-worst-president-cuomo-open-cpt-vpx.cnn
Mr. Trump is the worst president ever because he doesn't like this give-away
This is certainly one of the most brilliant observations ever
Thank you so much for posting it here
The $500M for Israel is missing from that graphics.
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@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.
I’m still glad he won in 2016 and I continue to believe TDS showed and shows a lot of elitist asses. It’s unfortunate he is spinning these fraud claims. It’s foolish.
wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 19:20 last edited by Loki@horace said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.
I’m still glad he won in 2016 and I continue to believe TDS showed and shows a lot of elitist asses. It’s unfortunate he is spinning these fraud claims. It’s foolish.
I could not tell if they were truly frightened or trying to control their people by creating so much fear. Neither is flattering and both are the real threat to democracy. But I agree with you and I think the pardon stuff is pretty pathetic and rewards corruption too.
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@horace said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.
I’m still glad he won in 2016 and I continue to believe TDS showed and shows a lot of elitist asses. It’s unfortunate he is spinning these fraud claims. It’s foolish.
I could not tell if they were truly frightened or trying to control their people by creating so much fear. Neither is flattering and both are the real threat to democracy. But I agree with you and I think the pardon stuff is pretty pathetic and rewards corruption too.
wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 20:25 last edited by@loki said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
@horace said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
@jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:
Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.
I’m still glad he won in 2016 and I continue to believe TDS showed and shows a lot of elitist asses. It’s unfortunate he is spinning these fraud claims. It’s foolish.
I could not tell if they were truly frightened or trying to control their people by creating so much fear. Neither is flattering and both are the real threat to democracy. But I agree with you and I think the pardon stuff is pretty pathetic and rewards corruption too.
Certainly there is an element of spiking the ball to exaggerating the threat Trump’s post-loss behavior represents. It’s a zero cost catharsis and I Told You So for those with TDS.