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  • J jon-nyc
    24 Dec 2020, 03:11

    On Kushner:

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    Loki
    wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:21 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

    On Kushner:

    Yeah that’s really awful but it’s not germane to any point of someone pardoning their son in laws dad. I think people would get that.

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    • J jon-nyc
      24 Dec 2020, 01:27

      I think we talked about the Kushner story. It supposedly tanked Christie’s chances in the new administration.

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      Loki
      wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:23 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

      I think we talked about the Kushner story. It supposedly tanked Christie’s chances in the new administration.

      For which Christie is likely grateful now.

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      • J jon-nyc
        24 Dec 2020, 02:55

        More about Chris Collins:

        According to the federal government, on June 22, 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins. The e-mail explained that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins allegedly received this news while attending a picnic at the White House and, upon seeing the email, immediately phoned his son and instructed him to sell shares in the company. According to the allegations, the sale allowed Collins and his family to avoid around $570,000 in losses. The shares eventually dropped around 90% once news about the drug trial became public.[69]

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:31 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

        More about Chris Collins:

        According to the federal government, on June 22, 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins. The e-mail explained that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins allegedly received this news while attending a picnic at the White House and, upon seeing the email, immediately phoned his son and instructed him to sell shares in the company. According to the allegations, the sale allowed Collins and his family to avoid around $570,000 in losses. The shares eventually dropped around 90% once news about the drug trial became public.[69]

        Imagine being a sitting US representative and risking prison and career destruction for 600k.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • J jon-nyc
          24 Dec 2020, 03:31

          @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

          More about Chris Collins:

          According to the federal government, on June 22, 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins. The e-mail explained that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins allegedly received this news while attending a picnic at the White House and, upon seeing the email, immediately phoned his son and instructed him to sell shares in the company. According to the allegations, the sale allowed Collins and his family to avoid around $570,000 in losses. The shares eventually dropped around 90% once news about the drug trial became public.[69]

          Imagine being a sitting US representative and risking prison and career destruction for 600k.

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          Loki
          wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:33 last edited by
          #10

          @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

          @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

          More about Chris Collins:

          According to the federal government, on June 22, 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins. The e-mail explained that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins allegedly received this news while attending a picnic at the White House and, upon seeing the email, immediately phoned his son and instructed him to sell shares in the company. According to the allegations, the sale allowed Collins and his family to avoid around $570,000 in losses. The shares eventually dropped around 90% once news about the drug trial became public.[69]

          Imagine being a sitting US representative and risking prison and career destruction for 600k.

          I’m not following?

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          • L Loki
            24 Dec 2020, 03:33

            @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

            @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

            More about Chris Collins:

            According to the federal government, on June 22, 2017, the CEO of Innate Immunotherapeutics sent an email to the company's board of directors, including Collins. The e-mail explained that an important drug trial for the company had failed. Collins allegedly received this news while attending a picnic at the White House and, upon seeing the email, immediately phoned his son and instructed him to sell shares in the company. According to the allegations, the sale allowed Collins and his family to avoid around $570,000 in losses. The shares eventually dropped around 90% once news about the drug trial became public.[69]

            Imagine being a sitting US representative and risking prison and career destruction for 600k.

            I’m not following?

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:38 last edited by
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            @loki said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

            I’m not following?

            He committed a crime to prevent losing <600k. Risking prison and career destruction.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • J jon-nyc
              24 Dec 2020, 03:38

              @loki said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

              I’m not following?

              He committed a crime to prevent losing <600k. Risking prison and career destruction.

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              Loki
              wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 03:41 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

              @loki said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

              I’m not following?

              He committed a crime to prevent losing <600k. Risking prison and career destruction.

              Yeah but it’s more common than it should be, no?

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 04:12 last edited by
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                Yeah. I guess.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 04:14 last edited by jon-nyc
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                  My guess is some of these guys aren’t done. Prolly some pissed off law enforcement agents and prosecutors out there tonight. I suspect some of these men will be hunted. OJ redux.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 05:07 last edited by
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                    The phrase 'what a bunch of cunts' has leapt, unbidden, into my mind.

                    And for some reason it refuses to leave.

                    I was only joking

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 12:35 last edited by
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                      Dang, the Trump supporters must be so embarrassed now.
                      (Yeah, like Trump has never embarrassed them before.)

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 12:38 last edited by
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                        Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          George K
                          wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 13:10 last edited by
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                          I had no idea that Christie was the prosecutor:

                          https://www.djournal.com/news/national/watch-chris-christie-explain-why-kushners-father-was-prosecuted/video_c21e75ae-c294-594c-96b9-17ac55922a92.html

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 15:51 last edited by
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                            All it takes to be a Trump supporter is hatred for Ms. Clinton

                            It's no different than being a Biden supporter

                            It is impossible for anyone to think Mr. Biden could be a good president

                            But hating Mr. Trump is easy for so many

                            You eat what is put in front of you.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              24 Dec 2020, 12:38

                              Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.

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                              A Former User
                              wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 18:31 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                              Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.

                              this

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                              • ? A Former User
                                24 Dec 2020, 18:31

                                @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.

                                this

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                                A Former User
                                wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 18:36 last edited by
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                                https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/24/trump-worst-president-cuomo-open-cpt-vpx.cnn

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                                  24 Dec 2020, 18:36

                                  https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/24/trump-worst-president-cuomo-open-cpt-vpx.cnn

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 18:51 last edited by
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                                  @nobodyssock said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                  https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/24/trump-worst-president-cuomo-open-cpt-vpx.cnn

                                  Mr. Trump is the worst president ever because he doesn't like this give-away

                                  This is certainly one of the most brilliant observations ever

                                  Thank you so much for posting it here

                                  ![alt text](c4a06ac4-dce6-4964-98da-5394ad8ff578-image.png image url)

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    24 Dec 2020, 12:38

                                    Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 18:55 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                    Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.

                                    I’m still glad he won in 2016 and I continue to believe TDS showed and shows a lot of elitist asses. It’s unfortunate he is spinning these fraud claims. It’s foolish.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • C Copper
                                      24 Dec 2020, 18:51

                                      @nobodyssock said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                      https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/24/trump-worst-president-cuomo-open-cpt-vpx.cnn

                                      Mr. Trump is the worst president ever because he doesn't like this give-away

                                      This is certainly one of the most brilliant observations ever

                                      Thank you so much for posting it here

                                      ![alt text](c4a06ac4-dce6-4964-98da-5394ad8ff578-image.png image url)

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 19:03 last edited by
                                      #24

                                      @copper said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                      @nobodyssock said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                      https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/24/trump-worst-president-cuomo-open-cpt-vpx.cnn

                                      Mr. Trump is the worst president ever because he doesn't like this give-away

                                      This is certainly one of the most brilliant observations ever

                                      Thank you so much for posting it here

                                      ![alt text](c4a06ac4-dce6-4964-98da-5394ad8ff578-image.png image url)

                                      The $500M for Israel is missing from that graphics.
                                      Wonder what other countries are missing too.

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                                      • H Horace
                                        24 Dec 2020, 18:55

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                        Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.

                                        I’m still glad he won in 2016 and I continue to believe TDS showed and shows a lot of elitist asses. It’s unfortunate he is spinning these fraud claims. It’s foolish.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 19:20 last edited by Loki
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                                        @horace said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                        Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.

                                        I’m still glad he won in 2016 and I continue to believe TDS showed and shows a lot of elitist asses. It’s unfortunate he is spinning these fraud claims. It’s foolish.

                                        I could not tell if they were truly frightened or trying to control their people by creating so much fear. Neither is flattering and both are the real threat to democracy. But I agree with you and I think the pardon stuff is pretty pathetic and rewards corruption too.

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                                        • L Loki
                                          24 Dec 2020, 19:20

                                          @horace said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                          Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.

                                          I’m still glad he won in 2016 and I continue to believe TDS showed and shows a lot of elitist asses. It’s unfortunate he is spinning these fraud claims. It’s foolish.

                                          I could not tell if they were truly frightened or trying to control their people by creating so much fear. Neither is flattering and both are the real threat to democracy. But I agree with you and I think the pardon stuff is pretty pathetic and rewards corruption too.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 20:25 last edited by
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                                          @loki said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                          @horace said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Charlie Kushner pardon:

                                          Pretty much anyone who's still a Trump supporter has developed the psychological defense mechanisms necessary to not be embarrassed by him.

                                          I’m still glad he won in 2016 and I continue to believe TDS showed and shows a lot of elitist asses. It’s unfortunate he is spinning these fraud claims. It’s foolish.

                                          I could not tell if they were truly frightened or trying to control their people by creating so much fear. Neither is flattering and both are the real threat to democracy. But I agree with you and I think the pardon stuff is pretty pathetic and rewards corruption too.

                                          Certainly there is an element of spiking the ball to exaggerating the threat Trump’s post-loss behavior represents. It’s a zero cost catharsis and I Told You So for those with TDS.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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