I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election
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wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 18:00 last edited by
Proof of voter fraud, state by state:
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Proof of voter fraud, state by state:
wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 18:30 last edited by@larry all of those cases were 2019 or older.
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wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 18:47 last edited by
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship. 5 different lists I tried had been blocked. But I found this one:
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wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 18:52 last edited by jon-nyc
There’s a guy on Twitter who keeps track of the evidence.
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wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 18:52 last edited by
I guess this blows Bartman's witness protection program.
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It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship. 5 different lists I tried had been blocked. But I found this one:
wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 19:47 last edited by@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
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@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 19:50 last edited by@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
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@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 19:58 last edited by@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
Submit their evidence to courts of law.
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@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
Submit their evidence to courts of law.
wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 20:28 last edited by@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
Submit their evidence to courts of law.
And please tell me how they are going to do that when the court won't even agree to hear the damn case, you idiot?
Jesus H. Christ talking to a democrat is like talking to a 3 year old.
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@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
Submit their evidence to courts of law.
And please tell me how they are going to do that when the court won't even agree to hear the damn case, you idiot?
Jesus H. Christ talking to a democrat is like talking to a 3 year old.
wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 20:39 last edited by@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
Submit their evidence to courts of law.
And please tell me how they are going to do that when the court won't even agree to hear the damn case,
“Wisconsin Supreme Court agrees to hear President Trump's election lawsuit appeal”
Before reaching the Wisconsin Supreme Court, the Trump team also had their days in Wisconsin’s lower court.
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@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 00:55 last edited by xenon@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
So where did you see the evidence? Just direct us to that. I’m willing to read.
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@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
So where did you see the evidence? Just direct us to that. I’m willing to read.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 01:33 last edited by@xenon said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
So where did you see the evidence? Just direct us to that. I’m willing to read.
Dig it out yourself. You wouldn't listen to anything I show you, so I'm not interested in arguing with a guy who is closed minded.
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@xenon said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@axtremus said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
It's hard to find for 2020 due to censorship.
No censorship for court filings, all that Trump and his lawyers had to do was to put their evidence in court filings.
Are you that ignorant? No one puts their evidence in court findings. Ever. Not even for a jaywalking ticket.
So where did you see the evidence? Just direct us to that. I’m willing to read.
Dig it out yourself. You wouldn't listen to anything I show you, so I'm not interested in arguing with a guy who is closed minded.
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@larry I’ve tried - haven’t found anything.
And I start with Twitter true believers and fraud-sympathetic websites.
No one has evidence.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 01:50 last edited by@xenon said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry I’ve tried - haven’t found anything.
And I start with Twitter true believers and fraud-sympathetic websites.
No one has evidence.
How about all the people who filed affidavits on penalty of perjury who can't get a fucking court to hear them? Have you thought to check into that? Or are you expecting to hear it from the people that say what you want to hear? They've all had their lives threatened, you know. Quite a few of them have lost their jobs because they spoke out. Some have backed out for fear of their lives. Does that sound like you're going to find the evidence by reading the tweets of the fools you agree with?
Maybe you could look up some of the news stories about the truck drivers who have sworn under oath that they hailed tractor trailer loads of ballots across state lines into the 4 districts accused of fraud. How about that. Can you pull your head out of your ass long enough to look those up?
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@xenon said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry I’ve tried - haven’t found anything.
And I start with Twitter true believers and fraud-sympathetic websites.
No one has evidence.
How about all the people who filed affidavits on penalty of perjury who can't get a fucking court to hear them? Have you thought to check into that? Or are you expecting to hear it from the people that say what you want to hear? They've all had their lives threatened, you know. Quite a few of them have lost their jobs because they spoke out. Some have backed out for fear of their lives. Does that sound like you're going to find the evidence by reading the tweets of the fools you agree with?
Maybe you could look up some of the news stories about the truck drivers who have sworn under oath that they hailed tractor trailer loads of ballots across state lines into the 4 districts accused of fraud. How about that. Can you pull your head out of your ass long enough to look those up?
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 02:25 last edited by xenon@larry yes I have read some affidavits. One was by a cyber security analyst that mistook MI for MN and said turnout was mathematically impossible in the counties (Russ Ramland - he was touted by Giuliani and made it to Lou Dobbs). As for courts hearing the evidence - the Trump campaign has had multiple chances to present this sort of evidence. They haven’t.
The trucker thing - are you talking about the Lancaster example? He didn’t see any actual fraud - he said his trucking processes were irregular. You don’t face much legal jeopardy from an affidavit like that.
Happy to talk specifics.
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@larry yes I have read some affidavits. One was by a cyber security analyst that mistook MI for MN and said turnout was mathematically impossible in the counties (Russ Ramland - he was touted by Giuliani and made it to Lou Dobbs). As for courts hearing the evidence - the Trump campaign has had multiple chances to present this sort of evidence. They haven’t.
The trucker thing - are you talking about the Lancaster example? He didn’t see any actual fraud - he said his trucking processes were irregular. You don’t face much legal jeopardy from an affidavit like that.
Happy to talk specifics.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 12:45 last edited by@xenon said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
@larry yes I have read some affidavits. One was by a cyber security analyst that mistook MI for MN and said turnout was mathematically impossible in the counties (Russ Ramland - he was touted by Giuliani and made it to Lou Dobbs). As for courts hearing the evidence - the Trump campaign has had multiple chances to present this sort of evidence. They haven’t.
The trucker thing - are you talking about the Lancaster example? He didn’t see any actual fraud - he said his trucking processes were irregular. You don’t face much legal jeopardy from an affidavit like that.
Happy to talk specifics.
Have you read much election law?
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@larry yes I have read some affidavits. One was by a cyber security analyst that mistook MI for MN and said turnout was mathematically impossible in the counties (Russ Ramland - he was touted by Giuliani and made it to Lou Dobbs). As for courts hearing the evidence - the Trump campaign has had multiple chances to present this sort of evidence. They haven’t.
The trucker thing - are you talking about the Lancaster example? He didn’t see any actual fraud - he said his trucking processes were irregular. You don’t face much legal jeopardy from an affidavit like that.
Happy to talk specifics.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 13:31 last edited by jon-nyc@xenon said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
yes I have read some affidavits. One was by a cyber security analyst that mistook MI for MN and said turnout was mathematically impossible in the counties (Russ Ramland - he was touted by Giuliani and made it to Lou Dobbs).
George posted the Powerline blog guy commenting on the MI/MN screw up.
As a reminder the data (at least on its face) showed vote totals that exceeded registered voter counts, or maybe even population counts. It looked bad, IOW.
What's funny is the powerline guy then asked the logical question - does this mean that the investigator inadvertently discovered fraud in some MN districts? He went on to say no, because those districts are red and these kinds of things happen in blue districts, not red ones. So evidence that was going to be dispositive proof of fraud in a blue area was worthy of ignoring in a red area.
That one sentence tells you everything you need to know about the election Truthers. Literally all of the information about them is contained in that example.
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wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:46 last edited by
@jolly said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
Have you read much election law?
Not much, but probably 100x more than years past.
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@xenon said in I am corrected. Voter Fraud Found in Election:
yes I have read some affidavits. One was by a cyber security analyst that mistook MI for MN and said turnout was mathematically impossible in the counties (Russ Ramland - he was touted by Giuliani and made it to Lou Dobbs).
George posted the Powerline blog guy commenting on the MI/MN screw up.
As a reminder the data (at least on its face) showed vote totals that exceeded registered voter counts, or maybe even population counts. It looked bad, IOW.
What's funny is the powerline guy then asked the logical question - does this mean that the investigator inadvertently discovered fraud in some MN districts? He went on to say no, because those districts are red and these kinds of things happen in blue districts, not red ones. So evidence that was going to be dispositive proof of fraud in a blue area was worthy of ignoring in a red area.
That one sentence tells you everything you need to know about the election Truthers. Literally all of the information about them is contained in that example.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:49 last edited by xenon@jon-nyc I had a similar reaction to the trucker thing.
This USPS subcontractor was going off about how his processes were different - but didn’t bother coming up with an election fraud theory.
Why would cheaters make mail in ballots disappear? They favor Biden.
If it were tampered ballots that disappeared - why would they take them out of circulation, tamper with them, give them back to someone not in on the conspiracy just to take them right back out of circulation?
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wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 15:39 last edited by
You guys aren't even talking about the right one. The one I'm talking about is the guy who drove 288,000 completed ballots from New York to Pennsylvania.
