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Do restrictions and mandates work?

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @george-k said in Do restrictions and mandates work?:

    Does he have data on mask usage to make such a claim?

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    @jon-nyc said in Do restrictions and mandates work?:

    Does he have data on mask usage to make such a claim?

    I don't think so. I think he's talking about "mandates" in a more general sense.

    I'd love to see something like that on how effective just masks are. I doubt that's available, however.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      I think masks are fine and effective within their limitations. Your behavior in distancing is just as important.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        To be honest, I wouldn't have thought that mandates would affect the date of the peak so much as the size of the peak. There's also the question of whether anybody's taking any notice any more, and whether the virus realises where the State line is.

        The implication that there's nothing we can do isn't particularly helpful, or cheering for that matter.

        I was only joking

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        • MikM Mik

          I think masks are fine and effective within their limitations. Your behavior in distancing is just as important.

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          @mik said in Do restrictions and mandates work?:

          I think masks are fine and effective within their limitations. Your behavior in distancing is just as important.

          Rand Paul has described them as "theater."

          That may, or may not, be the case. However, if they are not theater, I'm willing to do even the smallest thing to help. It's really not a big deal.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            No, it really isn't a big deal, other than not going to indoor restaurants and having larger gatherings. But it will be temporary. I worry that we consider this such a hardship.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • George KG George K

              @mik said in Do restrictions and mandates work?:

              I think masks are fine and effective within their limitations. Your behavior in distancing is just as important.

              Rand Paul has described them as "theater."

              That may, or may not, be the case. However, if they are not theater, I'm willing to do even the smallest thing to help. It's really not a big deal.

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              @george-k said in Do restrictions and mandates work?:

              Rand Paul has described them as "theater."

              A cynic would say if anybody knows theatre, it's Rand Paul....

              I was only joking

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                I'm a belt and suspenders kind of person. Entering stores, I typically have on 2 masks - a surgical mask under a N95 mask. I do re-use them and keep a new box of surgical masks in the car.

                If I'm outside running in the street, I use cloth masks - which are largely cosmetic - but I figure with a 30 mph wind and being 50 feet away from most people, there's minimal risk.

                If we saw this coming, I think we might have had better masks for people to utilize - and made use of them earlier - perhaps with more impact than has been experienced. Japan and China have cultural norms that encourage one to wear a mask. If you get ill, it's "your fault." Japan avoided the lockdowns.

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                • George KG George K

                  @jon-nyc said in Do restrictions and mandates work?:

                  Does he have data on mask usage to make such a claim?

                  I don't think so. I think he's talking about "mandates" in a more general sense.

                  I'd love to see something like that on how effective just masks are. I doubt that's available, however.

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                  @george-k

                  It seems to me you need data to tease out mask usage vs mask mandate before you declare the absence of the latter to be significant.

                  You were warned.

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                  • kluursK kluurs

                    I'm a belt and suspenders kind of person. Entering stores, I typically have on 2 masks - a surgical mask under a N95 mask. I do re-use them and keep a new box of surgical masks in the car.

                    If I'm outside running in the street, I use cloth masks - which are largely cosmetic - but I figure with a 30 mph wind and being 50 feet away from most people, there's minimal risk.

                    If we saw this coming, I think we might have had better masks for people to utilize - and made use of them earlier - perhaps with more impact than has been experienced. Japan and China have cultural norms that encourage one to wear a mask. If you get ill, it's "your fault." Japan avoided the lockdowns.

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                    @kluurs said in Do restrictions and mandates work?:

                    I'm a belt and suspenders kind of person. Entering stores, I typically have on 2 masks - a surgical mask under a N95 mask. I do re-use them and keep a new box of surgical masks in the car.

                    If I'm outside running in the street, I use cloth masks - which are largely cosmetic - but I figure with a 30 mph wind and being 50 feet away from most people, there's minimal risk.

                    If we saw this coming, I think we might have had better masks for people to utilize - and made use of them earlier - perhaps with more impact than has been experienced. Japan and China have cultural norms that encourage one to wear a mask. If you get ill, it's "your fault." Japan avoided the lockdowns.

                    Might want to reverse that. An N95 has to fit right to work right. It can't fit right if it's riding on a surgical mask.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @kluurs said in Do restrictions and mandates work?:

                      I'm a belt and suspenders kind of person. Entering stores, I typically have on 2 masks - a surgical mask under a N95 mask. I do re-use them and keep a new box of surgical masks in the car.

                      If I'm outside running in the street, I use cloth masks - which are largely cosmetic - but I figure with a 30 mph wind and being 50 feet away from most people, there's minimal risk.

                      If we saw this coming, I think we might have had better masks for people to utilize - and made use of them earlier - perhaps with more impact than has been experienced. Japan and China have cultural norms that encourage one to wear a mask. If you get ill, it's "your fault." Japan avoided the lockdowns.

                      Might want to reverse that. An N95 has to fit right to work right. It can't fit right if it's riding on a surgical mask.

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                      @jolly thanks. Good thought

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