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  • MikM Offline
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    A Citroen?

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • jodiJ Offline
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      Heated seats. Backup camera.

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        I drove a car that the headlights turned when the steering wheel turned.

        It actually was quite helpful on dark, unfamiliar roads.

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        @taiwan_girl said in Car shopping question:

        I drove a car that the headlights turned when the steering wheel turned.

        It actually was quite helpful on dark, unfamiliar roads.

        My 1977 Thunderbird had a white light on each side that came on at night when you turned. It lit up the side where you were turning.

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          Friday
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          Power.
          And it has to look pretty.
          Keyless entry.
          Blind spot monitoring.
          I'm in SoCal. My needs are different.

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            #29

            For those unenthusiastic about a sunroof.

            Seems to me they're cool to have even if you don't open them. Obviously not always, but in the winter and evenings its always cool to have the light coming in , no?

            Also when we rent cars with sunroofs the boy is pretty good about not ignoring them. He opens them at every opportunity unless it's noon in Miami.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              #30

              This thread has been useful. Confirming in some respects (heated seats, backup camera) and informative in others. I wasn't sure what to think of all the 'driver assist' tech, but it seems like it is universally appreciated.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • CopperC Copper

                @taiwan_girl said in Car shopping question:

                I drove a car that the headlights turned when the steering wheel turned.

                It actually was quite helpful on dark, unfamiliar roads.

                My 1977 Thunderbird had a white light on each side that came on at night when you turned. It lit up the side where you were turning.

                JollyJ Offline
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                @copper said in Car shopping question:

                @taiwan_girl said in Car shopping question:

                I drove a car that the headlights turned when the steering wheel turned.

                It actually was quite helpful on dark, unfamiliar roads.

                My 1977 Thunderbird had a white light on each side that came on at night when you turned. It lit up the side where you were turning.

                So did my 84 Buick. Those were wired to the turn signal. I don't know why you don't see them anymore, because they worked great.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  For those unenthusiastic about a sunroof.

                  Seems to me they're cool to have even if you don't open them. Obviously not always, but in the winter and evenings its always cool to have the light coming in , no?

                  Also when we rent cars with sunroofs the boy is pretty good about not ignoring them. He opens them at every opportunity unless it's noon in Miami.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #32

                  @jon-nyc said in Car shopping question:

                  For those unenthusiastic about a sunroof.

                  Seems to me they're cool to have even if you don't open them. Obviously not always, but in the winter and evenings its always cool to have the light coming in , no?

                  Also when we rent cars with sunroofs the boy is pretty good about not ignoring them. He opens them at every opportunity unless it's noon in Miami.

                  Wait until you get a leak in one...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    #33

                    I'll keep a car maybe 6-7 years and put maybe 50k miles on it.

                    I'm not too worried about reliability issues.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I'll keep a car maybe 6-7 years and put maybe 50k miles on it.

                      I'm not too worried about reliability issues.

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                      #34

                      @jon-nyc If that's the case, buy what you like.

                      How about a nice Indian vehicle?

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                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • CopperC Copper

                        @taiwan_girl said in Car shopping question:

                        I drove a car that the headlights turned when the steering wheel turned.

                        It actually was quite helpful on dark, unfamiliar roads.

                        My 1977 Thunderbird had a white light on each side that came on at night when you turned. It lit up the side where you were turning.

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                        #35

                        @copper said in Car shopping question:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Car shopping question:

                        I drove a car that the headlights turned when the steering wheel turned.

                        It actually was quite helpful on dark, unfamiliar roads.

                        My 1977 Thunderbird had a white light on each side that came on at night when you turned. It lit up the side where you were turning.

                        Hey Copper, I had a 1980 T-Bird. I liked the car a lot, but it had too many issues meaning too much time in the shop. Handled great, was "sexy" as a 2-door with landau roof, big engine. And that huge tail light that said "T-Bird" from a mile away! Hidden headlights. Very elegant and distinctive. Kinda like the new Caddy's and a couple of others, as opposed to the cars that all look the same and you have to spot the logo to know what it is.

                        Sunroofs can be a royal pain. We had one that leaked into the trunk, and after three attempts by different mechanics, we gave up. Sold it. ZN Cougar: it was way cool, except for the pond in the trunk.

                        My nephew has a BMW 5 series. His sunroof leaked, it cost him $6,000 to have the damaged parts of the interior replaced. And I would also agree that a sunroof is used infrequently. Seems most cars have a sunroof now, for some reason. Must be that vitamin D thing.

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                        • RainmanR Rainman

                          @copper said in Car shopping question:

                          @taiwan_girl said in Car shopping question:

                          I drove a car that the headlights turned when the steering wheel turned.

                          It actually was quite helpful on dark, unfamiliar roads.

                          My 1977 Thunderbird had a white light on each side that came on at night when you turned. It lit up the side where you were turning.

                          Hey Copper, I had a 1980 T-Bird. I liked the car a lot, but it had too many issues meaning too much time in the shop. Handled great, was "sexy" as a 2-door with landau roof, big engine. And that huge tail light that said "T-Bird" from a mile away! Hidden headlights. Very elegant and distinctive. Kinda like the new Caddy's and a couple of others, as opposed to the cars that all look the same and you have to spot the logo to know what it is.

                          Sunroofs can be a royal pain. We had one that leaked into the trunk, and after three attempts by different mechanics, we gave up. Sold it. ZN Cougar: it was way cool, except for the pond in the trunk.

                          My nephew has a BMW 5 series. His sunroof leaked, it cost him $6,000 to have the damaged parts of the interior replaced. And I would also agree that a sunroof is used infrequently. Seems most cars have a sunroof now, for some reason. Must be that vitamin D thing.

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                          @rainman said in Car shopping question:

                          @copper said in Car shopping question:

                          @taiwan_girl said in Car shopping question:

                          I drove a car that the headlights turned when the steering wheel turned.

                          It actually was quite helpful on dark, unfamiliar roads.

                          My 1977 Thunderbird had a white light on each side that came on at night when you turned. It lit up the side where you were turning.

                          Hey Copper, I had a 1980 T-Bird. I liked the car a lot, but it had too many issues meaning too much time in the shop. Handled great, was "sexy" as a 2-door with landau roof, big engine. And that huge tail light that said "T-Bird" from a mile away! Hidden headlights. Very elegant and distinctive. Kinda like the new Caddy's and a couple of others, as opposed to the cars that all look the same and you have to spot the logo to know what it is.

                          Sunroofs can be a royal pain. We had one that leaked into the trunk, and after three attempts by different mechanics, we gave up. Sold it. ZN Cougar: it was way cool, except for the pond in the trunk.

                          My nephew has a BMW 5 series. His sunroof leaked, it cost him $6,000 to have the damaged parts of the interior replaced. And I would also agree that a sunroof is used infrequently. Seems most cars have a sunroof now, for some reason. Must be that vitamin D thing.

                          Ive had lots of cars with sunroofs in them, and luckily never had a single problem out of any of them. Of coyrse, i rarely opened them up, so that could explain my luck with them.

                          The side light connected to the turn signal was somethi g I really like about the lincolns. I really liked that feature a lot. It was very useful.

                          As for bells and whistles... my wife's Cadillac has so many I haven't found them all yet, but I don't drive it very often. There's a few features on it I hate. The most annoying feature on it is there are vibrating thingies inside the drivers seat that for instance, if there's a car coming up on my left in the blind spot and I drift to the left too far the left side of the seat starts vibrating and it scares the he'll out of me every time because it feels like a buzz saw has grabbed my left leg. Another one for the Right side. If I had to drive the thi g very often I'd take it to a dealership and have them rip it out. Another feature I absolutely hate is the tire pressure thing. There's one tire that the readout of the dash says has no air in it. Then it says it has 42 pounds in it. Then it says it has 34 pounds in it. Then it says it has no air in it. And every time the readout falls below 36 pounds, there's a (quite elegant sounding actually) dinging noise that starts, a yellow flat tire icons lights up in the dash, and I can't switch the readout to anything else while it's all lit up and flashing. I took it to the dealer and was told "it's probably the little battery inside the tire. We'll need to take the tire off and replace the whole thing. The part costs 75 bucks, plus 30 bucks to take the tire off and put it back on. And when one goes the rest are not far behind, so you should replace all of them...... I refuse to pay 300 to 400 bucks to replace batteries in the stupid thing....

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                            Never had a problem with a sunroof in 20 years. My Murano has one that goes the length of the passenger compartment. Love it. Really lets a lot of natural light in during the day.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Sunroofs often leak when the seals become porose or the sewer lines clogged after years of weather exposure. Happened to me once on a 12yo car. It was an expensive repair, and there was water damage inside. I would have paid more for my current car if it wouldn't have had a sunroof. It's good for entertaining the kids once a year, but that's it.

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                                My car beeps at me when there is a person or car - either directly behind me or about to be directly behind me. So, if I were distracted or looking the wrong way - the car still is protecting me. Lane merges are also protected by a blinking light. If I were distracted and the car in front of me stops or slows, the car automatically signals that and will initiate automatic braking. All of those things are great - and they're getting better every year.

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Never had a problem with a sunroof in 20 years. My Murano has one that goes the length of the passenger compartment. Love it. Really lets a lot of natural light in during the day.

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                                  @mik I like the glass, as you mention. But opening it is a rare occurrence.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    I’m not sure how much I like the self braking cars... I definitely see the appeal, but I don’t like giving up control and don’t trust the automatics, plusI worry about relying on them and making me a worse driver... I’ve seen a lot of drivers become to reliant on their backup cameras and not actually look as well... meaning they miss the vehicle that is traveling through but is not yet in camera range...

                                    All for the alerts though, and the more cameras the better.

                                    Cruise control? I’m sorry, I thought you guys liked driving...

                                    The Brad

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                                      Whenever a discussion of moon or sunroofs comes up, I'm reminded of my own experience a few decades ago. I was just about to buy a new car. I was trying to save every penny - but had my girlfriend at the time with me. I picked out a Camry. They're going over potential option packages with me - and they mention that for $900 more I get better wheels and a moonroof. I tell the guy "don't need those." The girlfriend says "you'll regret it if you don't get the moonroof." So, against my better judgment I pay the $900. A few months later, girlfriend mentions that when she and her then husband were getting a new car, she talked him out of moonroof and she heard about his disappointment the rest of their marriage. "So, the reason I spent $900 on a moonroof isn't because I wanted a moonroof - or even because you wanted a moonroof, but because your ex-husband wanted a moonroof?"

                                      Yup...gotta love 'em.

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                                        I'm on the fence regarding automatic braking. We shall see how that works out. The backup camera sometimes just confuses me - I'm old enough that my natural reaction is to look for myself. Sometimes I go back and forth between craning my neck, looking at the camera and checking the side mirrors that I wonder if I will miss something.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • kluursK kluurs

                                          Whenever a discussion of moon or sunroofs comes up, I'm reminded of my own experience a few decades ago. I was just about to buy a new car. I was trying to save every penny - but had my girlfriend at the time with me. I picked out a Camry. They're going over potential option packages with me - and they mention that for $900 more I get better wheels and a moonroof. I tell the guy "don't need those." The girlfriend says "you'll regret it if you don't get the moonroof." So, against my better judgment I pay the $900. A few months later, girlfriend mentions that when she and her then husband were getting a new car, she talked him out of moonroof and she heard about his disappointment the rest of their marriage. "So, the reason I spent $900 on a moonroof isn't because I wanted a moonroof - or even because you wanted a moonroof, but because your ex-husband wanted a moonroof?"

                                          Yup...gotta love 'em.

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                                          @kluurs said in Car shopping question:

                                          Whenever a discussion of moon or sunroofs comes up, I'm reminded of my own experience a few decades ago. I was just about to buy a new car. I was trying to save every penny - but had my girlfriend at the time with me. I picked out a Camry. They're going over potential option packages with me - and they mention that for $900 more I get better wheels and a moonroof. I tell the guy "don't need those." The girlfriend says "you'll regret it if you don't get the moonroof." So, against my better judgment I pay the $900. A few months later, girlfriend mentions that when she and her then husband were getting a new car, she talked him out of moonroof and she heard about his disappointment the rest of their marriage. "So, the reason I spent $900 on a moonroof isn't because I wanted a moonroof - or even because you wanted a moonroof, but because your ex-husband wanted a moonroof?"

                                          Yup...gotta love 'em.

                                          The problem is not the moonroof.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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