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What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?

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    Loki
    wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 20:25 last edited by
    #52

    If we only approved the astra Zeneca vaccine this would quickly become a moot point.

    I know all the talk before the election was to delay until it was safe. I suppose the FDA took that heart.

    Interesting how the focus still isn’t on quicker approval even in the week of the super virulent strain.

    Approve the vaccines and we will have more vaccines then we know what to do with. And stop the politics and look at the answer staring you in the face.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 20:34 last edited by
      #53

      translation: "Don't be political and criticize the CDC. Criticize the FDA instead"

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • J jon-nyc
        31 Dec 2020, 20:34

        translation: "Don't be political and criticize the CDC. Criticize the FDA instead"

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        Loki
        wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 21:06 last edited by
        #54

        @jon-nyc said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

        translation: "Don't be political and criticize the CDC. Criticize the FDA instead"

        Can the CDC mandate how the states distribute the vaccine?

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        • L Loki
          31 Dec 2020, 20:25

          If we only approved the astra Zeneca vaccine this would quickly become a moot point.

          I know all the talk before the election was to delay until it was safe. I suppose the FDA took that heart.

          Interesting how the focus still isn’t on quicker approval even in the week of the super virulent strain.

          Approve the vaccines and we will have more vaccines then we know what to do with. And stop the politics and look at the answer staring you in the face.

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          George K
          wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 22:10 last edited by George K
          #55

          @loki said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

          the super virulent contagious strain

          I've not seen anything to indicate that the new strain is more deadly, just more easily transmitted.

          Did I get that wrong?

          Can the CDC mandate how the states distribute the vaccine?

          My read is, no they can't mandate. They can suggest. Some states are rolling the vaccine out on a different set of priorities, like New York is doing.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • L Loki
            31 Dec 2020, 16:57

            @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

            @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

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            oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

            You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

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            A Former User
            wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 22:44 last edited by
            #56

            @loki said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

            @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

            @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

            E3936BEA-1368-4ABA-A5B2-B20829DF833F.jpeg

            oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

            You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

            Forgive me. I dont frequent this place as much as others . I might miss a thread or two.

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            • ? A Former User
              31 Dec 2020, 22:44

              @loki said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

              @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

              @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

              E3936BEA-1368-4ABA-A5B2-B20829DF833F.jpeg

              oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

              You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

              Forgive me. I dont frequent this place as much as others . I might miss a thread or two.

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              Loki
              wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 23:07 last edited by
              #57

              @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

              @loki said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

              @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

              @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

              E3936BEA-1368-4ABA-A5B2-B20829DF833F.jpeg

              oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

              You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

              Forgive me. I dont frequent this place as much as others . I might miss a thread or two.

              Well it is a total miss characterization. Do you check for accuracy or just re-spray?

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                Copper
                wrote on 31 Dec 2020, 23:56 last edited by
                #58

                I don't care very much that somebody got the vaccine and might not deserve it.

                Nobody has ever done this before.

                If they aren't making mistakes then they aren't doing anything.

                Cut some slack

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 18:04 last edited by
                  #59

                  A friend in her late 30s and works as a physical rehab assistant just announced she is scheduled for hers next week. That’s a little annoying.

                  The Brad

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 1 Jan 2021, 18:20 last edited by
                    #60

                    Healthcare first, FTW!😄

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                      1 Jan 2021, 18:04

                      A friend in her late 30s and works as a physical rehab assistant just announced she is scheduled for hers next week. That’s a little annoying.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 2 Jan 2021, 00:30 last edited by
                      #61

                      @lufins-dad said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                      A friend in her late 30s and works as a physical rehab assistant just announced she is scheduled for hers next week. That’s a little annoying.

                      Maybe that’s because she needs to work with many elderlies?

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 15:45 last edited by
                        #62

                        So the CDC just yesterday did a last minute about face and added 65+ and immunocompromised to the 1b list.

                        But in practice it's too late. At least in NY and likely other places.

                        THey've had the scheduling system open for the essential worker category for a while now so every 18 year old grocery store employee (yeah, really) has already reserved a spot, while the earliest their 74 year old grandmothers on chemotherapy can get an appointment if they go online today is (literally) April.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 15:48 last edited by
                          #63

                          Re-allocation of the pie will yield marginal results. We need more approved vaccines.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 15:50 last edited by jon-nyc
                            #64

                            That’s wrong, and to the extent there’s any truth to it, it’s only because we’ve already wasted millions on people at low risk.

                            But sure, if we increase the capacity we can reduce the cost of this tragic mistake.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • G George K
                              22 Dec 2020, 12:20

                              I disagree with her on many things, but she's always struck me as being a reasonable person:

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 15:53 last edited by Renauda
                              #65

                              @george-k
                              What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                              I disagree with her on many things, but she's always struck me as being a reasonable person:

                              Tulsi Gabbard was my preferred Democrat candidate in the nomination race. I found her stances on various issues quite agreeable.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                13 Jan 2021, 15:50

                                That’s wrong, and to the extent there’s any truth to it, it’s only because we’ve already wasted millions on people at low risk.

                                But sure, if we increase the capacity we can reduce the cost of this tragic mistake.

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 16:00 last edited by
                                #66

                                @jon-nyc said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                That’s wrong, and to the extent there’s any truth to it, it’s only because we’ve already wasted millions on people at low risk.

                                But sure, if we increase the capacity we can reduce the cost of this tragic mistake.

                                What percent have been vaccinated already? It seems so low that the impact wouldn’t be that great.

                                I have no clue why who got vaccinated was decided but I assume it wasn’t political as in partisan.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 16:50 last edited by
                                  #67

                                  It wasn't political as in partisan, it was political as in 'who deserves it', rather than based purely on risk. Part of that was driven by a desire for 'equity' (newspeak for discrimination) but part of it was just (IMO) an expression of guilt by those who could avoid the risk to those who couldn't.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    13 Jan 2021, 16:50

                                    It wasn't political as in partisan, it was political as in 'who deserves it', rather than based purely on risk. Part of that was driven by a desire for 'equity' (newspeak for discrimination) but part of it was just (IMO) an expression of guilt by those who could avoid the risk to those who couldn't.

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                                    Loki
                                    wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 17:00 last edited by
                                    #68

                                    What did Fauci say?

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 17:10 last edited by
                                      #69

                                      I don't know.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 17:21 last edited by
                                        #70

                                        There should be a big thermometer in Times Square, and elsewhere, maybe on the web, that shows number of doses in storage and number of people vaccinated.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 17:34 last edited by
                                          #71

                                          It’s on the web where more people can see it.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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