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  • George KG Offline
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    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/07/world/covid-19-coronavirus?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes#trump-administration-officials-passed-when-pfizer-offered-in-late-summer-to-sell-the-us-more-vaccine-doses

    rump administration officials passed when Pfizer offered in late summer to sell the U.S. government additional doses of its Covid-19 vaccine, according to people familiar with the matter. Now Pfizer may not be able to provide more of its vaccine to the United States until next June because of its commitments to other countries, they said.

    As the administration scrambles to try to purchase more doses of the vaccine, President Trump plans on Tuesday to sign an executive order “to ensure that United States government prioritizes getting the vaccine to American citizens before sending it to other nations,” according to a draft statement and a White House official, though it was not immediately clear what force the president’s executive order would carry.

    That included whether it would expand the U.S. supply of doses beyond what is spelled out in existing federal contracts.

    The vaccine being produced by Pfizer and its German partner, BioNTech, is a two-dose treatment, meaning that 100 million doses is enough to vaccinate only 50 million Americans. The vaccine is expected to receive authorization for emergency use in the U.S. as soon as this weekend, with another vaccine, developed by Moderna, also likely to be approved for emergency use soon.

    Britain plans to begin a vaccination drive on Tuesday using the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, making it the first Western nation to start mass vaccinations.

    On Nov. 11 — two days after Pfizer first announced early results indicating that its vaccine was more than 90 percent effective — the European Union announced that it had finalized a supply deal with Pfizer and BioNTech for 200 million doses, a deal they began negotiating in months earlier. Shipments could begin by the end of the year, and the contract includes an option for 100 million more doses.

    Asked if the Trump administration had missed a crucial chance over the summer to snap up more doses for Americans, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services said, “We are confident that we will have 100 million doses of Pfizer’s vaccine as agreed to in our contract, and beyond that, we have five other vaccine candidates.”

    In a statement, Pfizer said that “any additional doses beyond the 100 million are subject to a separate and mutually acceptable agreement,” and that “the company is not able to comment on any confidential discussions that may be taking place with the U.S. government.”

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      I thought Bill Gates was supposed to have factories ready to roll for the vaccine when it came?

      The Brad

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        Pfizer will go where the money goes and where their contracts are.

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          Pfizer will go where the money goes and where their contracts are.

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          @taiwan_girl said in Europe First?:

          Pfizer will go where the money goes and where their contracts are.

          Well what else is there?

          Best make sure you get what you are promised.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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            UK starts vaccinations

            I was only joking

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              Remember this.

              39C1921F-B1ED-44F7-A5E6-0E9D454A5118.png

              The US just wasn’t a big buyer of Pfizer.

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                Here’s another interesting comparison of the current top 3.

                https://www.businessinsider.com/how-covid-vaccines-compare-cost-astrazeneca-oxford-pfizer-biontech-moderna-2020-11

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Remember this.

                  39C1921F-B1ED-44F7-A5E6-0E9D454A5118.png

                  The US just wasn’t a big buyer of Pfizer.

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  @jon-nyc said in Europe First?:

                  Remember this.

                  39C1921F-B1ED-44F7-A5E6-0E9D454A5118.png

                  The US just wasn’t a big buyer of Pfizer.

                  I don’t see Moderna on that list?

                  The Brad

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                    Yeah, it's missing J&J too.

                    Not sure why.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                      Haven't Russia been vaccinating people for a week now? Calling it Sputnik?

                      Anyway the UK is vaccinating today, starting with the over 80's and front line NHS staff first.
                      This is undoubtedly the best way to approach the roll out as 99% of deaths here have been of people over 50 (or with medical complications) and the older you are the more at risk you are.
                      Wife and I are probably in the ninth of eleven catagories (with catagory 11 not getting the jab) and expecting to be asked to attend... by Easter?

                      The daily UK death toll is about 200 a day now, with continuing lockdown measures working as expected.
                      And more good news, the Oxford/Astra vaccine has been peer-reviewed as safe in The Lancet.

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