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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #3

    Money talks. It has ever been thus.

    Is it right? Not even close. Am I surprised? Same. I wish her luck in getting this out.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      Money talks. It has ever been thus.

      Is it right? Not even close. Am I surprised? Same. I wish her luck in getting this out.

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      George K
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      #4

      @Mik said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

      I wish her luck in getting this out.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #5

        As I said, I wish her luck. This might be the one year I wish I still lived in California. Then I might be able to go out to eat again.

        Gonna be a long winter.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          George K
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          #6

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/business-owner-says-restaurants-are-being-unfairly-targeted-by-coronavirus-restrictions/ar-BB1bEl0A

          Under the county’s guidelines, video and music production is deemed essential. Many production crews also test employees frequently, while under the recent Los Angeles County health order, restaurants like Marsden’s were forced to shut down their outdoor dining.

          Allrighty, then.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            #7

            I cannot for the life of me see why they have to shut down outdoor dining.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              I cannot for the life of me see why they have to shut down outdoor dining.

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              Copper
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              #8

              @Mik said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

              I cannot for the life of me see why they have to shut down outdoor dining.

              You can't be serious

              Virtue!

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                But the movies, man. The movies!

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  But the movies, man. The movies!

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #10

                  @George-K said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                  But the movies, man. The movies!

                  Yeah. I second Mik's first comment. 😞

                  The specifics of her situation are ideal for viral sharing, though. I hope she has a GoFundMe.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @George-K said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                    But the movies, man. The movies!

                    Yeah. I second Mik's first comment. 😞

                    The specifics of her situation are ideal for viral sharing, though. I hope she has a GoFundMe.

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                    Loki
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                    @George-K said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                    But the movies, man. The movies!

                    Yeah. I second Mik's first comment. 😞

                    The specifics of her situation are ideal for viral sharing, though. I hope she has a GoFundMe.

                    That was my initial take but there are valid reasons for viewing these differently, one is the likelihood of the employees being tested frequently and other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work. Would be interested in counterpoints to those arguments.

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                    • L Loki

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                      @George-K said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                      But the movies, man. The movies!

                      Yeah. I second Mik's first comment. 😞

                      The specifics of her situation are ideal for viral sharing, though. I hope she has a GoFundMe.

                      That was my initial take but there are valid reasons for viewing these differently, one is the likelihood of the employees being tested frequently and other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work. Would be interested in counterpoints to those arguments.

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                      #12

                      @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                      and the other mostly for essential work

                      There. We can't go without movies. That would be horrible.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                      Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        Glad to know she and her employees run the place for fun and not work.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Glad to know she and her employees run the place for fun and not work.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                          Glad to know she and her employees run the place for fun and not work.

                          I knew it might be taken that way. I was talking about the customers.

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                          • L Loki

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                            @George-K said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                            But the movies, man. The movies!

                            Yeah. I second Mik's first comment. 😞

                            The specifics of her situation are ideal for viral sharing, though. I hope she has a GoFundMe.

                            That was my initial take but there are valid reasons for viewing these differently, one is the likelihood of the employees being tested frequently and other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work. Would be interested in counterpoints to those arguments.

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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            #15

                            @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                            other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work.

                            Both are for work. It might be argued that the movie crap isn't imperative (therefore "for fun"), but that would depend on a lot.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                              other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work.

                              Both are for work. It might be argued that the movie crap isn't imperative (therefore "for fun"), but that would depend on a lot.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                              @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                              other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work.

                              Both are for work. It might be argued that the movie crap isn't imperative (therefore "for fun"), but that would depend on a lot.

                              I was talking about the clientele not the workers put out to the street.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                and the other mostly for essential work

                                There. We can't go without movies. That would be horrible.

                                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                @George-K said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                and the other mostly for essential work

                                There. We can't go without movies. That would be horrible.

                                It would lead to an assload more people unemployed than the woman's business. Just sayin'.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • L Loki

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                  @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                  other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work.

                                  Both are for work. It might be argued that the movie crap isn't imperative (therefore "for fun"), but that would depend on a lot.

                                  I was talking about the clientele not the workers put out to the street.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                  @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                  other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work.

                                  Both are for work. It might be argued that the movie crap isn't imperative (therefore "for fun"), but that would depend on a lot.

                                  I was talking about the clientele not the workers put out to the street.

                                  I don't see how that's in any way material. Her employees' jobs aren't less important because their clientele are there "for fun," any more than the movie production company and its employees aren't important because "all they do is make movies." You have a small-ass patio that's essential to keep open so that the woman's business doesn't go under. You have a shitload of tents set up for a movie production company that arguably don't need to be, because you can find other logistical means to feed your staff.

                                  (Honestly, what the production company should do is hire the woman for catering. Everybody's happy.)

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @George-K said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                    @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                    and the other mostly for essential work

                                    There. We can't go without movies. That would be horrible.

                                    It would lead to an assload more people unemployed than the woman's business. Just sayin'.

                                    MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #19

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                    @George-K said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                    @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                    and the other mostly for essential work

                                    There. We can't go without movies. That would be horrible.

                                    It would lead to an assload more people unemployed than the woman's business. Just sayin'.

                                    Cumulatively in LA? I doubt it.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                      @George-K said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                      @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                      and the other mostly for essential work

                                      There. We can't go without movies. That would be horrible.

                                      It would lead to an assload more people unemployed than the woman's business. Just sayin'.

                                      Cumulatively in LA? I doubt it.

                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                      Aqua Letifer
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                                      #20

                                      @Mik said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                      @George-K said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                      @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                      and the other mostly for essential work

                                      There. We can't go without movies. That would be horrible.

                                      It would lead to an assload more people unemployed than the woman's business. Just sayin'.

                                      Cumulatively in LA? I doubt it.

                                      No, just her business. As for total restaurants vs. total movie crew, probably you're right? I have no idea.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                        @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                        @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                        other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work.

                                        Both are for work. It might be argued that the movie crap isn't imperative (therefore "for fun"), but that would depend on a lot.

                                        I was talking about the clientele not the workers put out to the street.

                                        I don't see how that's in any way material. Her employees' jobs aren't less important because their clientele are there "for fun," any more than the movie production company and its employees aren't important because "all they do is make movies." You have a small-ass patio that's essential to keep open so that the woman's business doesn't go under. You have a shitload of tents set up for a movie production company that arguably don't need to be, because you can find other logistical means to feed your staff.

                                        (Honestly, what the production company should do is hire the woman for catering. Everybody's happy.)

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #21

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                        @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                        @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                        other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work.

                                        Both are for work. It might be argued that the movie crap isn't imperative (therefore "for fun"), but that would depend on a lot.

                                        I was talking about the clientele not the workers put out to the street.

                                        I don't see how that's in any way material. Her employees' jobs aren't less important because their clientele are there "for fun," any more than the movie production company and its employees aren't important because "all they do is make movies." You have a small-ass patio that's essential to keep open so that the woman's business doesn't go under. You have a shitload of tents set up for a movie production company that arguably don't need to be, because you can find other logistical means to feed your staff.

                                        (Honestly, what the production company should do is hire the woman for catering. Everybody's happy.)

                                        Great. What about the Food Service people hired to take care of the production staff?

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                          @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                          @Loki said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                          other being one venue is mostly for fun and the other mostly for work.

                                          Both are for work. It might be argued that the movie crap isn't imperative (therefore "for fun"), but that would depend on a lot.

                                          I was talking about the clientele not the workers put out to the street.

                                          I don't see how that's in any way material. Her employees' jobs aren't less important because their clientele are there "for fun," any more than the movie production company and its employees aren't important because "all they do is make movies." You have a small-ass patio that's essential to keep open so that the woman's business doesn't go under. You have a shitload of tents set up for a movie production company that arguably don't need to be, because you can find other logistical means to feed your staff.

                                          (Honestly, what the production company should do is hire the woman for catering. Everybody's happy.)

                                          Great. What about the Food Service people hired to take care of the production staff?

                                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          #22

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Safe vs Dangerous in LA:

                                          Great. What about the Food Service people hired to take care of the production staff?

                                          I know very little about movie-making, but what I do know bleeds a little bit into what I know about food service; once you do catering work for one production, and you don't suck, word gets around that you're a catering option. Very slim chance this one contract is going to break the bank for that catering company. (They're tied into essential business, after all.) The woman's business, on the other hand, is on the verge of bankruptcy.

                                          Please love yourself.

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