How bad is the pandemic? Look at hospitalizations.
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Wow!
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A staggering 29% of all the hospital beds in Nevada are occupied by coronavirus patients, the highest rate in the country.
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Would be nice.
Although, I'd just as soon the wife got mine.
And another thing...What about folks like my SIL, who has already had COVID?
And another, 'nuther thing...What about DIL, who I'd bet good money had it last March, but is four months pregnant (and still working as a dialysis nurse).
Gonna be some tough decisions on who gets the Trump vaccine, when...
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@Jolly said in How bad is the pandemic? Look at hospitalizations.:
Gonna be some tough decisions on who gets the Trump vaccine,
Last time I was in the cleaning aisle at the store they had gallons and gallons of the Trump vaccine.
It’s the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines that are going to be hard to come by.
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I can’t think of a time in my life where we watched bodies stack up while we had an emergency remedy ready and we just waited weeks for bureaucratic approval processes.
Somebody should model excess deaths between deployment of Pfizer and Moderna today and when they actually are deployed. Actually we should use the UK approval dates.
It’s so weird and deadly.
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@jon-nyc said in How bad is the pandemic? Look at hospitalizations.:
@Jolly said in How bad is the pandemic? Look at hospitalizations.:
Gonna be some tough decisions on who gets the Trump vaccine,
Last time I was in the cleaning aisle at the store they had gallons and gallons of the Trump vaccine.
It’s the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines that are going to be hard to come by.
Nah, you don't get off that easy. Trump's watch, Trump's vaccine. I've been in the medical biz forty years and I've never seen the FDA move this fast.
Of course, if that bothers you, you can refuse to take any of them
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The thing is the approval isn’t stopping distribution.
I’m sure the first stick will come later if we approve the 11th instead of the 3rd but within a few days the constraint will still be supply.
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Well you know Jolly there was a pandemic and 30% unemployment. That might well have spurred the FDA as much as any nasty tweet.
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He made them move almost as fast as the terrible NHS.
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@jon-nyc said in How bad is the pandemic? Look at hospitalizations.:
Well you know Jolly there was a pandemic and 30% unemployment. That might well have spurred the FDA as much as any nasty tweet.
Bullshit. Pure partisan bullshit.
Remember, toots, I was dodging feces from AIDS patients when you were still trying to figure out how to depth-charge a beer in college. Or maybe that was high school. Did you know tests were available on automated platforms, platforms that were being used in the U.S., but the FDA would not let us have the tests? The Europeans were running them by the hundreds of thousands, by the millions, and all we could do was grit our teeth. Safety you know. Protocol must be followed. There are rules, you know. Wonder how many died because of that?
I was around for Swine Flu, too. Saw some foot dragging there, too.
Not to mention various other maladies.
So give credit, where credit is deserved.
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You missed the point entirely. I didn't say the FDA didn't speed things up, I said there was a lot more motivating them than Trump.
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@Jolly said in How bad is the pandemic? Look at hospitalizations.:
@jon-nyc said in How bad is the pandemic? Look at hospitalizations.:
Well you know Jolly there was a pandemic and 30% unemployment. That might well have spurred the FDA as much as any nasty tweet.
Bullshit. Pure partisan bullshit.
Remember, toots, I was dodging feces from AIDS patients when you were still trying to figure out how to depth-charge a beer in college. Or maybe that was high school. Did you know tests were available on automated platforms, platforms that were being used in the U.S., but the FDA would not let us have the tests? The Europeans were running them by the hundreds of thousands, by the millions, and all we could do was grit our teeth. Safety you know. Protocol must be followed. There are rules, you know. Wonder how many died because of that?
I was around for Swine Flu, too. Saw some foot dragging there, too.
Not to mention various other maladies.
So give credit, where credit is deserved.
Do you remember President Trump implying they should do less testing because it was making the numbers look bad?
You can't try and seriously claim there wasn't some seriously mixed messaging coming out of the WH.
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...and I've said over and over I don't particularly blame DJT for the Covid situation. I'm not going to praise him effusively over something like the FDA acting almost as quickly as the UK, either.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in How bad is the pandemic? Look at hospitalizations.:
...and I've said over and over I don't particularly blame DJT for the Covid situation. I'm not going to praise him effusively over something like the FDA acting almost as quickly as the UK, either.
I guess we don’t trust the UK. How absurd when Americans are dying. It will amount to well over 10,000 excess deaths.
But remember how blasé we are about that. So let’s not judge what happened before knowing how little we really care.
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I could say 'remember thalidomide?' The FDA saved you from the horrors of that one.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in How bad is the pandemic? Look at hospitalizations.:
I could say 'remember thalidomide?' The FDA saved you from the horrors of that one.
For 80 year olds. What did It do to them?