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Shanika can't read.

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Walter Williams died yesterday. Or maybe the day before.

    Thomas Sowell has an obit you could google.

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    @jon-nyc said in Shanika can't read.:

    Walter Williams died yesterday. Or maybe the day before.

    Thomas Sowell has an obit you could google.

    I posted it.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Several years ago, Project Baltimore began an investigation of Baltimore’s school system. What it found was an utter disgrace.

      In 19 of Baltimore’s 39 high schools, out of 3,804 students, only 14 of them, or less than 1%, were proficient in math.

      In 13 of Baltimore’s high schools, not a single student scored proficient in math.

      In five Baltimore City high schools, not a single student scored proficient in math or reading.

      Despite these academic deficiencies, about 70% of the students graduate and are conferred a high school diploma—a fraudulent high school diploma.

      The Detroit Public Schools Community District scored the lowest in the nation compared to 26 other urban districts for reading and mathematics at the fourth- and eighth-grade levels.

      None of these statistics mention skin color.

      But the article goes on to talk about Black students.

      It's just understood that poor performance equates to skin color.

      Do you want to hire any of these students?

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        #6

        Education policy is broken. More importantly our understand of what makes education work is broken.

        Agreed that all the latest systemic racism stuff is going to make it harder to solve the problem.

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          What is needed has been posted here thousands of times.

          Parents.

          Parents committed to the education.

          A decent education is possible without parents, but it is rare.

          All the money in the world is useless.

          It is hard work. You can't buy it.

          There is not a broken system.

          There are as many systems as there are cities and counties. Those with heavy parental involvement are excellent, those without it are not.

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          • CopperC Copper

            What is needed has been posted here thousands of times.

            Parents.

            Parents committed to the education.

            A decent education is possible without parents, but it is rare.

            All the money in the world is useless.

            It is hard work. You can't buy it.

            There is not a broken system.

            There are as many systems as there are cities and counties. Those with heavy parental involvement are excellent, those without it are not.

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            @Copper said in Shanika can't read.:

            What is needed has been posted here thousands of times.

            Parents.

            Parents committed to the education.

            A decent education is possible without parents, but it is rare.

            All the money in the world is useless.

            It is hard work. You can't buy it.

            There is not a broken system.

            There are as many systems as there are cities and counties. Those with heavy parental involvement are excellent, those without it are not.

            I agree. What of kids that come from broken houses, though? Fucked?

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              The problem with blacks, is that in most black neighborhoods, a good student is constantly harassed. Called names like Oreo.

              And to riff off of that, what about underachieving Indian kids on the Res? Many get called names like Apple (red on the outside, white on the inside) and harassed.

              It all boils down to culture. And Crazy Checks. Kids get beaten by their parents if they do too good and lose their Social Security money.

              Until we change the culture, you won't change the kid.

              Secondly, line up all the EdD and PhD people in education and demote half of them back to the classroom. Too many stupid thesis papers and too many wonky approaches. We know how to teach kids.

              We don't know how to fix cultures.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Yeah, I encountered a bit of that. "I may not get ahead, but I'll make sure no one else does either." But an African American women in my running club - has raised her children to go onto college and after her sister died, took in her sister's kids to do the same. Amazing woman.

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                • kluursK kluurs

                  Yeah, I encountered a bit of that. "I may not get ahead, but I'll make sure no one else does either." But an African American women in my running club - has raised her children to go onto college and after her sister died, took in her sister's kids to do the same. Amazing woman.

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                  @kluurs said in Shanika can't read.:

                  Yeah, I encountered a bit of that. "I may not get ahead, but I'll make sure no one else does either." But an African American women in my running club - has raised her children to go onto college and after her sister died, took in her sister's kids to do the same. Amazing woman.

                  Exception to the rule.

                  OTOH, their exists a stratus in black society, where kids are expected to do well. These are the children of black professionals, technical workers and middle-class business owners. One of the gals who worked for me had a B.S. degree in biology and her husband had a M.A. in Marketing. Their boy works for Boeing as an engineer, their daughter became a pharmacist.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Yup - that's the woman our group. She's an accountant - and very motivated. Her kids learned it from her.

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      What is needed has been posted here thousands of times.

                      Parents.

                      Parents committed to the education.

                      A decent education is possible without parents, but it is rare.

                      All the money in the world is useless.

                      It is hard work. You can't buy it.

                      There is not a broken system.

                      There are as many systems as there are cities and counties. Those with heavy parental involvement are excellent, those without it are not.

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                      @Copper said in Shanika can't read.:

                      What is needed has been posted here thousands of times.

                      Parents.

                      Parents committed to the education.

                      A decent education is possible without parents, but it is rare.

                      All the money in the world is useless.

                      It is hard work. You can't buy it.

                      There is not a broken system.

                      There are as many systems as there are cities and counties. Those with heavy parental involvement are excellent, those without it are not.

                      Agree

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