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Cash for pardons?

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    Larry
    wrote on 1 Dec 2020, 23:47 last edited by
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    Well we all know what a great track record CNN has for ferreting out the truth....

    "Look over here for a while while we steal the election"......

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      xenon
      wrote on 1 Dec 2020, 23:56 last edited by
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      Is cash for pardons a crime? Because if it isn’t and this is true - we’re going to start hearing about how this is totally cool.

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        Larry
        wrote on 2 Dec 2020, 00:03 last edited by
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        Oddly, there's nothing on CNN about it so I guess we have to take this Harwood guy's word for it.

        But that's how most stories from the Left get started...

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          xenon
          wrote on 2 Dec 2020, 00:04 last edited by xenon 12 Feb 2020, 00:05
          #6

          Links to the court docs are embedded in this:

          https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/politics/doj-pardon-investigation-court-filing/index.html

          And there’s like 3 articles on this already at CNN

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            Loki
            wrote on 2 Dec 2020, 00:12 last edited by Loki 12 Feb 2020, 00:14
            #7

            Reading the CNN article it seems like it was on behalf of one person to be pardoned and no indication of whether there was any receptivity to the idea and the pardonee of interest may have done something with regard to campaign contributions.

            So it’s not nothing but it possibly just went from a Hollywood thriller to possibly a failed pilot show.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 2 Dec 2020, 01:44 last edited by
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              What Is the difference between bribery and a large donation to a political party?

              I am (pretty) serious in asking this question.

              When someone donates a large sum to a political party, they assume they are going to bet some sort of access, favorable treatment, etc.

              Maybe with bribery, you are "guaranteed" to get the result you want, but with political donations, it is not guaranteed?

              🤷

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                2 Dec 2020, 01:44

                What Is the difference between bribery and a large donation to a political party?

                I am (pretty) serious in asking this question.

                When someone donates a large sum to a political party, they assume they are going to bet some sort of access, favorable treatment, etc.

                Maybe with bribery, you are "guaranteed" to get the result you want, but with political donations, it is not guaranteed?

                🤷

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                George K
                wrote on 2 Dec 2020, 01:49 last edited by
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                @taiwan_girl said in Cash for pardons?:

                What Is the difference between bribery and a large donation to a political party?

                I am (pretty) serious in asking this question.

                When someone donates a large sum to a political party, they assume they are going to bet some sort of access, favorable treatment, etc.

                Maybe with bribery, you are "guaranteed" to get the result you want, but with political donations, it is not guaranteed?

                🤷

                Ask any "lobbyist."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 2 Dec 2020, 01:50 last edited by
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                  What’s the difference between going home with a guy who bought you some stuff vs a cash transaction bedside?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Loki
                    wrote on 2 Dec 2020, 02:42 last edited by
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                    Does anybody know how the DOJ found out about it?

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 2 Dec 2020, 02:55 last edited by
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                      Somebody must.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Loki
                        wrote on 2 Dec 2020, 03:03 last edited by
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                        A Justice Department official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said: "no government official was or is currently a subject or target of the investigation disclosed in this filing."

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 2 Dec 2020, 04:26 last edited by
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                          Standard Big Whoop about nothing.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            2 Dec 2020, 01:44

                            What Is the difference between bribery and a large donation to a political party?

                            I am (pretty) serious in asking this question.

                            When someone donates a large sum to a political party, they assume they are going to bet some sort of access, favorable treatment, etc.

                            Maybe with bribery, you are "guaranteed" to get the result you want, but with political donations, it is not guaranteed?

                            🤷

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 3 Dec 2020, 02:13 last edited by
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                            @taiwan_girl said in Cash for pardons?:

                            What Is the difference between bribery and a large donation to a political party?

                            I am (pretty) serious in asking this question.

                            When someone donates a large sum to a political party, they assume they are going to bet some sort of access, favorable treatment, etc.

                            Maybe with bribery, you are "guaranteed" to get the result you want, but with political donations, it is not guaranteed?

                            🤷

                            Happen to read about this article on VOA.

                            (https://www.voanews.com/usa/mercenary-donor-sold-access-millions-foreign-money)

                            Opening paragraph

                            "As an elite political fundraiser, Imaad Zuberi had the ear of top Democrats and Republicans alike — a reach that included private meetings with then-Vice President Joe Biden and VIP access at Donald Trump's inauguration.

                            He lived a lavish, jet-setting lifestyle, staying at fine hotels and hosting lawmakers and diplomats at four-star restaurants. Foreign ambassadors turned to Zuberi to get face time in Congress.

                            He was a charming networker and an inveterate namedropper. His Facebook account was filled with pictures of him next to the powerful and famous: having dinner with Hillary Clinton and Robert De Niro and rubbing shoulders with Trump's then-chief of staff Reince Priebus outside Mar-A-Lago. Zuberi raised huge amounts for Clinton in the 2016 election before becoming a top donor to the Trump Presidential Inauguration Committee."

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 3 Dec 2020, 02:29 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Mar 2020, 02:29
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                              Zuberi raised huge amounts for Clinton in the 2016 election before becoming a top donor to the Trump Presidential Inauguration Committee.

                              A conversion on the road to perdition.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 4 Dec 2020, 12:08 last edited by
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                                https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-attorney-investigated-in-alleged-bribery-for-pardon-scheme-2020-12

                                Earlier this week, a federal judge released documents showing that the Department of Justice was investigating a "bribery conspiracy scheme" this past summer. The names of the suspects were redacted and no one has been charged with a crime.

                                The status of the investigation is unknown.

                                In a statement on Wednesday, a DOJ official told Business Insider that "No government official was or is currently a subject or target of the investigation disclosed in this filing."

                                Earlier this week, a federal judge released documents showing that the Department of Justice was investigating a "bribery conspiracy scheme" this past summer. The names of the suspects were redacted and no one has been charged with a crime.

                                The status of the investigation is unknown.

                                In a statement on Wednesday, a DOJ official told Business Insider that "No government official was or is currently a subject or target of the investigation disclosed in this filing."

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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