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You deserve to be raped!

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
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    #17

    Workers and executives at Dominion Voting systems being harassed and bounty placed one worker

    Why is no one condemning this?

    (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dominion-voting-systems-employees-threatened-including-bounty-placed-on-one-worker-amid-election-controversy/ar-BB1bmaWP)

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      Workers and executives at Dominion Voting systems being harassed and bounty placed one worker

      Why is no one condemning this?

      (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dominion-voting-systems-employees-threatened-including-bounty-placed-on-one-worker-amid-election-controversy/ar-BB1bmaWP)

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #18

      @taiwan_girl said in You deserve to be raped!:

      Workers and executives at Dominion Voting systems being harassed and bounty placed one worker

      Why is no one condemning this?

      (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dominion-voting-systems-employees-threatened-including-bounty-placed-on-one-worker-amid-election-controversy/ar-BB1bmaWP)

      I think everybody's too busy asking why nobody's condemning the other people to condemn these people.

      I was only joking

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      • George KG George K

        By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

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        @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

        By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

        To be fair, no one in the media is asking Joe to condemn anything.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          Special pleading, which is a generalization of whataboutism, is always comforting, to the extent one can think beyond oneself.

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          @Horace said in You deserve to be raped!:

          Special pleading, which is a generalization of whataboutism, is always comforting, to the extent one can think beyond oneself.

          Not seeing the relevance to the topic at hand, please elaborate if you don’t mind spending the time.

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            Horace
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            special pleading, which is a classical logical fallacy, is what "whataboutism" is attempting to address. I'm trying to say that whataboutism is not always special pleading. Sometimes it compares apples to apples, and then the interlocutor should probably have something to say.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

              By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

              https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemned-antifa/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-antifa-violent-protests-idUSKBN2712ZA

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              @Doctor-Phibes said in You deserve to be raped!:

              @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

              By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

              https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemned-antifa/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-antifa-violent-protests-idUSKBN2712ZA

              Yeah and Trump denounced racism.

              We know what's in Biden's heart ❤.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

                By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

                https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemned-antifa/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-antifa-violent-protests-idUSKBN2712ZA

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in You deserve to be raped!:

                @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

                By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

                https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemned-antifa/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-antifa-violent-protests-idUSKBN2712ZA

                Antifa, the left-wing anti-fascist movement whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem authoritarian or racist.

                The Soviet Communist Party, whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem class enemies of the Soviet people....

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in You deserve to be raped!:

                  @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

                  By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

                  https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemned-antifa/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-antifa-violent-protests-idUSKBN2712ZA

                  Antifa, the left-wing anti-fascist movement whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem authoritarian or racist.

                  The Soviet Communist Party, whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem class enemies of the Soviet people....

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #24

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in You deserve to be raped!:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in You deserve to be raped!:

                  @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

                  By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

                  https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemned-antifa/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-antifa-violent-protests-idUSKBN2712ZA

                  Antifa, the left-wing anti-fascist movement whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem authoritarian or racist.

                  The Soviet Communist Party, whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem class enemies of the Soviet people....

                  The American government isn't exactly lily-white in this respect, either. People talk about the good old days before modern liberalism became such a terrible blight - presumably, they mean the good old days of J. Edgar Hoover and Josph McCarthy, who used aggressive tactics to intimidate groups they deemed enemies of The American Way of Life.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in You deserve to be raped!:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in You deserve to be raped!:

                    @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

                    By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

                    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemned-antifa/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-antifa-violent-protests-idUSKBN2712ZA

                    Antifa, the left-wing anti-fascist movement whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem authoritarian or racist.

                    The Soviet Communist Party, whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem class enemies of the Soviet people....

                    The American government isn't exactly lily-white in this respect, either. People talk about the good old days before modern liberalism became such a terrible blight - presumably, they mean the good old days of J. Edgar Hoover and Josph McCarthy, who used aggressive tactics to intimidate groups they deemed enemies of The American Way of Life.

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                    LuFins Dad
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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in You deserve to be raped!:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in You deserve to be raped!:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in You deserve to be raped!:

                    @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

                    By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

                    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemned-antifa/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-antifa-violent-protests-idUSKBN2712ZA

                    Antifa, the left-wing anti-fascist movement whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem authoritarian or racist.

                    The Soviet Communist Party, whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem class enemies of the Soviet people....

                    The American government isn't exactly lily-white in this respect, either. People talk about the good old days before modern liberalism became such a terrible blight - presumably, they mean the good old days of J. Edgar Hoover and Josph McCarthy, who used aggressive tactics to intimidate groups they deemed enemies of The American Way of Life.

                    You mean the guy that used the FBI’s resources to illegally gather information about political enemies?

                    Oh, and the guy that would got businesses shut down and people’s careers and lives ruined over unproven accusations?

                    The Brad

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      Workers and executives at Dominion Voting systems being harassed and bounty placed one worker

                      Why is no one condemning this?

                      (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dominion-voting-systems-employees-threatened-including-bounty-placed-on-one-worker-amid-election-controversy/ar-BB1bmaWP)

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                      Larry
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                      @taiwan_girl said in You deserve to be raped!:

                      Workers and executives at Dominion Voting systems being harassed and bounty placed one worker

                      Why is no one condemning this?

                      (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dominion-voting-systems-employees-threatened-including-bounty-placed-on-one-worker-amid-election-controversy/ar-BB1bmaWP)

                      If that story is actually true, then those engaged in that are wrong, and should be condemned for it. There's 2 problems with the story, however. First, the sour e of the story is unreliable and very biased. If other news sources were covering the story too I might accept it as true. But I can't find any other media reporting this, so it may not even be true. Second, there is a huge difference between a group that rarely ever engages in threats or violence having a few bad actors make threats, and a group that routinely makes threats and engages in violence on a daily basis.

                      But as I said, if it's true it should be condemned. I'm just not convinced it's true, and if it is true it's out of character for the right side and doesn't equate with the Left side who do this sort of thing on a daily basis.

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                      • LarryL Larry

                        @taiwan_girl said in You deserve to be raped!:

                        Workers and executives at Dominion Voting systems being harassed and bounty placed one worker

                        Why is no one condemning this?

                        (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dominion-voting-systems-employees-threatened-including-bounty-placed-on-one-worker-amid-election-controversy/ar-BB1bmaWP)

                        If that story is actually true, then those engaged in that are wrong, and should be condemned for it. There's 2 problems with the story, however. First, the sour e of the story is unreliable and very biased. If other news sources were covering the story too I might accept it as true. But I can't find any other media reporting this, so it may not even be true. Second, there is a huge difference between a group that rarely ever engages in threats or violence having a few bad actors make threats, and a group that routinely makes threats and engages in violence on a daily basis.

                        But as I said, if it's true it should be condemned. I'm just not convinced it's true, and if it is true it's out of character for the right side and doesn't equate with the Left side who do this sort of thing on a daily basis.

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                        @Larry but what if the folks threatening violence truly believe Dominion makes money manipulating vote counts (for both Dems and R’s) - as Sidney alleged?

                        They’d believe that Dominion is responsible for years of illegitimate leaders. Wouldn’t cracking some eggs be worth rooting out that sort of sedition?

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                          @Larry but what if the folks threatening violence truly believe Dominion makes money manipulating vote counts (for both Dems and R’s) - as Sidney alleged?

                          They’d believe that Dominion is responsible for years of illegitimate leaders. Wouldn’t cracking some eggs be worth rooting out that sort of sedition?

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                          @xenon said in You deserve to be raped!:

                          @Larry but what if the folks threatening violence truly believe Dominion makes money manipulating vote counts (for both Dems and R’s) - as Sidney alleged?

                          They’d believe that Dominion is responsible for years of illegitimate leaders. Wouldn’t cracking some eggs be worth rooting out that sort of sedition?

                          There's proper ways to handle that that doesn't involve some jerkoff calling up the employees and threatening them. There's no way to justify that. But I don't believe it happened anyway, so..

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in You deserve to be raped!:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in You deserve to be raped!:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in You deserve to be raped!:

                            @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

                            By my reckoning, he has yet to denounce Antifa or BLM violence.

                            https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemned-antifa/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-antifa-violent-protests-idUSKBN2712ZA

                            Antifa, the left-wing anti-fascist movement whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem authoritarian or racist.

                            The Soviet Communist Party, whose followers have used aggressive tactics including physical confrontations to intimidate groups they deem class enemies of the Soviet people....

                            The American government isn't exactly lily-white in this respect, either. People talk about the good old days before modern liberalism became such a terrible blight - presumably, they mean the good old days of J. Edgar Hoover and Josph McCarthy, who used aggressive tactics to intimidate groups they deemed enemies of The American Way of Life.

                            You mean the guy that used the FBI’s resources to illegally gather information about political enemies?

                            Oh, and the guy that would got businesses shut down and people’s careers and lives ruined over unproven accusations?

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in You deserve to be raped!:

                            You mean the guy that used the FBI’s resources to illegally gather information about political enemies?

                            I think he was talking about the guy who (presumably) had the IRS weaponized against people whose ideology differed from his.

                            I could be wrong, though.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              My point was that the good old days weren't. Maybe America sucks now, as some here seem to think, but it sure sucked then.

                              I was only joking

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                              • George KG George K

                                "Mr. President-Elect! Are you going to condemn and disavow these violent threats against a member of President Trumps legal team?"

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                                @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

                                "Mr. President-Elect! Are you going to condemn and disavow these violent threats against a member of President Trumps legal team?"

                                I’m really happy we’re back to having expectations that a President should speak out about incivility.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  The other thing I’m happy about is the recognition that Biden stands for defense of our democratic institutions, such that lawyers that are attacking them are perceived to be working contra his interest.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @George-K said in You deserve to be raped!:

                                    "Mr. President-Elect! Are you going to condemn and disavow these violent threats against a member of President Trumps legal team?"

                                    I’m really happy we’re back to having expectations that a President should speak out about incivility.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in You deserve to be raped!:

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                                    Really?

                                    Look at the dozens of times President Trump was asked to speak out against incivility, which he did, even while being occasionally impolite.

                                    C'mon, chump! Don't be a dog-faced lying pony soldier, or I'll make you feel my hairy legs. Maybe challenge you to a pushup contest.

                                    😲

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George - here’s what I mean - did it ever cross your mind to expect Trump to distance himself from the threats against the PA and GA Secretaries of State?

                                      Hell, even hoping he didn’t pile on would have seemed like an unreasonable expectation. Well, not unreasonable, just an expectation likely to be dashed.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Let's go back to the days when the State of the Union address was thrown in the trash while still in one piece.

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          My point was that the good old days weren't. Maybe America sucks now, as some here seem to think, but it sure sucked then.

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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in You deserve to be raped!:

                                          My point was that the good old days weren't. Maybe America sucks now, as some here seem to think, but it sure sucked then.

                                          Not for them, though, hence the bias. 🙂

                                          Please love yourself.

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