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Which vaccine?

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Mik said in Which vaccine?:

    I'm not sure we are going to be offered a choice.

    Seems there will be a trade off between getting one as early as possible and getting the exact one you want. Unless you just get lucky. Also where you live matters. The more rural your area, for example, the less likely you’ll get Pfizer.

    To answer the original question, though, I don’t know. Realistically we’ll have a lot more info before we really have to make a choice. Likely there will be efficacy data on 5 or 6 options by year end.

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    @jon-nyc said in Which vaccine?:

    @Mik said in Which vaccine?:

    I'm not sure we are going to be offered a choice.

    less likely you’ll get Pfizer.

    Because of the need to keep the very cold environment?

    I was thinking that depends on where they make the stuff.

    If they made it in Las Vegas, people would go to the vaccine and solve the transportation problem.

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      It’s a combination of the cold and the way they ship it - in batches of 1000. Once you open the specialized container you only have a few days to use them all. Probably not the best option for sparsely populated counties in Wyoming or whatever.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        I think by the time the great masses are vaccinated the single-dose technologies might be the most common.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          Bill Gates predicts “almost all” vaccines will work.

          https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/22/health/bill-gates-coronavirus-vaccine-thanksgiving/index.html

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Funny that all this happened within a couple of weeks after the election...

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            @Jolly said in Which vaccine?:

            Funny that all this happened within a couple of weeks after the election...

            Certainly is.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              @Jolly said in Which vaccine?:

              Funny that all this happened within a couple of weeks after the election...

              Certainly is.

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              George K
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              @Mik said in Which vaccine?:

              @Jolly said in Which vaccine?:

              Funny that all this happened within a couple of weeks after the election...

              Certainly is.

              You guys need to go to the tin-foil hat store.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                It is completely bizarre to me that the number 1 news story for the last two weeks hasn’t been about how fast we can vaccinate everyone.

                Deaths and bizarre post democracy stories must sell so much better.

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                  That’s a change, Loki. Within days of the election you actually posted that we weren’t going to hear about Covid anymore.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Mik said in Which vaccine?:

                    @Jolly said in Which vaccine?:

                    Funny that all this happened within a couple of weeks after the election...

                    Certainly is.

                    You guys need to go to the tin-foil hat store.

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                    @George-K said in Which vaccine?:

                    @Mik said in Which vaccine?:

                    @Jolly said in Which vaccine?:

                    Funny that all this happened within a couple of weeks after the election...

                    Certainly is.

                    You guys need to go to the tin-foil hat store.

                    Once is circumstance. Twice is coincidental. Three is enemy fire...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      That’s a change, Loki. Within days of the election you actually posted that we weren’t going to hear about Covid anymore.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Which vaccine?:

                      That’s a change, Loki. Within days of the election you actually posted that we weren’t going to hear about Covid anymore.

                      And we haven't, at least not in a particular way.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        That’s a change, Loki. Within days of the election you actually posted that we weren’t going to hear about Covid anymore.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Which vaccine?:

                        That’s a change, Loki. Within days of the election you actually posted that we weren’t going to hear about Covid anymore.

                        Well I didn’t anticipate the vaccine savior coming so fast and then Coumo wanting to delay it such that Biden would get credit for saving the country.

                        So now we have to wait until we can figure out how this becomes a Biden win.... thanks for helping me answer my own question.

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                          I very much doubt that Oxford University delayed announcing their vaccine in order to lavish praise on Joe Biden.

                          I realize that many Americans believe that the freaking universe revolves around Washington DC, but really chaps....get a grip on yourselves, if you haven't done so already.

                          And if the American drug companies did delay in this manner, it might be worth pondering why they would do such a thing, other than being part of a global conspiracy secretly funded by George Soros. Because if George Soros is secretly behind the vaccine, I tip my hat to him!

                          I was only joking

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                            I’ll try all of them, what the hell,

                            90 plus 95 plus 95 = 280% efficacy. What could go wrong?

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              I very much doubt that Oxford University delayed announcing their vaccine in order to lavish praise on Joe Biden.

                              I realize that many Americans believe that the freaking universe revolves around Washington DC, but really chaps....get a grip on yourselves, if you haven't done so already.

                              And if the American drug companies did delay in this manner, it might be worth pondering why they would do such a thing, other than being part of a global conspiracy secretly funded by George Soros. Because if George Soros is secretly behind the vaccine, I tip my hat to him!

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Which vaccine?:

                              I very much doubt that Oxford University delayed announcing their vaccine in order to lavish praise on Joe Biden.

                              I realize that many Americans believe that the freaking universe revolves around Washington DC, but really chaps....get a grip on yourselves, if you haven't done so already.

                              And if the American drug companies did delay in this manner, it might be worth pondering why they would do such a thing, other than being part of a global conspiracy secretly funded by George Soros. Because if George Soros is secretly behind the vaccine, I tip my hat to him!

                              Quite frankly I could care less about the past, what I want to see is a strategy and pressure to get everyone the vaccine as soon as possible. I’m astounded I am either an outlier or too stupid to understand why the news isn’t running with this, big time. Instead we see a death count and the death of democracy. Wtf.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Mik said in Which vaccine?:

                                @Jolly said in Which vaccine?:

                                Funny that all this happened within a couple of weeks after the election...

                                Certainly is.

                                You guys need to go to the tin-foil hat store.

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                                @George-K said in Which vaccine?:

                                @Mik said in Which vaccine?:

                                @Jolly said in Which vaccine?:

                                Funny that all this happened within a couple of weeks after the election...

                                Certainly is.

                                You guys need to go to the tin-foil hat store.

                                😀 😁 😀

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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Which vaccine?:

                                  I very much doubt that Oxford University delayed announcing their vaccine in order to lavish praise on Joe Biden.

                                  I realize that many Americans believe that the freaking universe revolves around Washington DC, but really chaps....get a grip on yourselves, if you haven't done so already.

                                  And if the American drug companies did delay in this manner, it might be worth pondering why they would do such a thing, other than being part of a global conspiracy secretly funded by George Soros. Because if George Soros is secretly behind the vaccine, I tip my hat to him!

                                  Quite frankly I could care less about the past, what I want to see is a strategy and pressure to get everyone the vaccine as soon as possible. I’m astounded I am either an outlier or too stupid to understand why the news isn’t running with this, big time. Instead we see a death count and the death of democracy. Wtf.

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                                  @Loki said in Which vaccine?:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Which vaccine?:

                                  I very much doubt that Oxford University delayed announcing their vaccine in order to lavish praise on Joe Biden.

                                  I realize that many Americans believe that the freaking universe revolves around Washington DC, but really chaps....get a grip on yourselves, if you haven't done so already.

                                  And if the American drug companies did delay in this manner, it might be worth pondering why they would do such a thing, other than being part of a global conspiracy secretly funded by George Soros. Because if George Soros is secretly behind the vaccine, I tip my hat to him!

                                  Quite frankly I could care less about the past, what I want to see is a strategy and pressure to get everyone the vaccine as soon as possible. I’m astounded I am either an outlier or too stupid to understand why the news isn’t running with this, big time. Instead we see a death count and the death of democracy. Wtf.

                                  The past often dictates the future.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Loki said in Which vaccine?:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Which vaccine?:

                                    I very much doubt that Oxford University delayed announcing their vaccine in order to lavish praise on Joe Biden.

                                    I realize that many Americans believe that the freaking universe revolves around Washington DC, but really chaps....get a grip on yourselves, if you haven't done so already.

                                    And if the American drug companies did delay in this manner, it might be worth pondering why they would do such a thing, other than being part of a global conspiracy secretly funded by George Soros. Because if George Soros is secretly behind the vaccine, I tip my hat to him!

                                    Quite frankly I could care less about the past, what I want to see is a strategy and pressure to get everyone the vaccine as soon as possible. I’m astounded I am either an outlier or too stupid to understand why the news isn’t running with this, big time. Instead we see a death count and the death of democracy. Wtf.

                                    The past often dictates the future.

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                                    @Jolly hopefully President Trump already has a plan that has been detailed out. And hopefully President elect Biden will use that and build on that to maximize the speed of the vaccine to people

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      @Jolly hopefully President Trump already has a plan that has been detailed out. And hopefully President elect Biden will use that and build on that to maximize the speed of the vaccine to people

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                                      @taiwan_girl said in Which vaccine?:

                                      @Jolly hopefully President Trump already has a plan that has been detailed out. And hopefully President elect Biden will use that and build on that to maximize the speed of the vaccine to people

                                      The plan, or at least the gist of one, has been in place for several weeks. Trump has tasked the military with transporting the vaccine. As for storage and innoculation, I do not know.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @jon-nyc said in Which vaccine?:

                                        That’s a change, Loki. Within days of the election you actually posted that we weren’t going to hear about Covid anymore.

                                        And we haven't, at least not in a particular way.

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                                        @Jolly said in Which vaccine?:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Which vaccine?:

                                        That’s a change, Loki. Within days of the election you actually posted that we weren’t going to hear about Covid anymore.

                                        And we haven't, at least not in a particular way.

                                        Random sample - FWIW (because I’m familiar with it):

                                        The Daily is a podcast by the NYT. Picks one story from the day and does a 20 min episode on it.

                                        Over the last 10 days, 5 episodes have been about COVID. The other 5 have been about election, and a smattering of other topics.

                                        Another datapoint: my Canadian parents. They’re super worried about COVID now, and they don’t even have a Trump.

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                                        • bachophileB bachophile

                                          I’ll try all of them, what the hell,

                                          90 plus 95 plus 95 = 280% efficacy. What could go wrong?

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                                          @bachophile said in Which vaccine?:

                                          I’ll try all of them, what the hell,

                                          90 plus 95 plus 95 = 280% efficacy. What could go wrong?

                                          LOL, bach. Count me in on that. My math might be different, but my hopes the same.

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