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Send in the Marshals.

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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Catseye3 said in Send in the Marshals.:

    Different strokes. Some people relieve their violent impulses by slashing tires and busting heads, others get their violence kicks on internet forums, launching vitriolic attacks, and waxing holier than thou.

    Nobody is blame-free.

    This might be your way of pointing out that Trumpers aren't perfect, and it's not virtuous to hurl insults. Which, sure, that's absolutely the case. It's true that nobody's perfect and both sides have their flaws.

    But if you meant what you said literally, and you truly can't tell the difference in degree between busting heads and internet bickering, your judgment isn't sufficient to allow you to leave your house in the daytime.

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    @Aqua-Letifer said in Send in the Marshals.:

    and you truly can't tell the difference in degree between busting heads and internet bickering,

    Did I say I couldn't tell the difference? Did I at any point say that?

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      Different strokes. Some people relieve their violent impulses by slashing tires and busting heads, others get their violence kicks on internet forums, launching vitriolic attacks, and waxing holier than thou.

      Nobody is blame-free.

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      @Catseye3 said in Send in the Marshals.:

      Different strokes. Some people relieve their violent impulses by slashing tires and busting heads, others get their violence kicks on internet forums, launching vitriolic attacks, and waxing holier than thou.

      Nobody is blame-free.

      What you're actually saying is you want to launch vitriolic attacks on Trump and be just as big a smart ass as you want to be, as holier than thou as you want to be, but if anyone hands you back the same shit you dish out they should be equated with Antifa.

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        Catseye3
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        No, that's not what I said and it's not what I meant. But thanks for playing!

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • Catseye3C Catseye3

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Send in the Marshals.:

          and you truly can't tell the difference in degree between busting heads and internet bickering,

          Did I say I couldn't tell the difference? Did I at any point say that?

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          @Catseye3 said in Send in the Marshals.:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Send in the Marshals.:

          and you truly can't tell the difference in degree between busting heads and internet bickering,

          Did I say I couldn't tell the difference? Did I at any point say that?

          Well, it seems a couple folks here are having trouble understanding what you did mean, so maybe you can explain it a little further.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Catseye3 said in Send in the Marshals.:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Send in the Marshals.:

            and you truly can't tell the difference in degree between busting heads and internet bickering,

            Did I say I couldn't tell the difference? Did I at any point say that?

            Well, it seems a couple folks here are having trouble understanding what you did mean, so maybe you can explain it a little further.

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            @Aqua-Letifer Nah.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • MikM Away
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              I think she was saying there is hate on both sides, which is true. But what determines the degree is how it is acted upon. The left's actions clearly mark them as far more hateful.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                No, that's not what I said and it's not what I meant. But thanks for playing!

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                @Catseye3 said in Send in the Marshals.:

                No, that's not what I said and it's not what I meant. But thanks for playing!

                Well.. maybe you don't realize it. But yeah.. yeah, that's what you said.

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                • MikM Mik

                  I think she was saying there is hate on both sides, which is true. But what determines the degree is how it is acted upon. The left's actions clearly mark them as far more hateful.

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                  @Mik said in Send in the Marshals.:

                  I think she was saying there is hate on both sides, which is true. But what determines the degree is how it is acted upon. The left's actions clearly mark them as far more hateful.

                  It's an important distinction, too, because we're not talking about who's being more nasty on the internet. One side is much more consistent with burning cars, setting businesses on fire, destroying public property, creating public nuisances, assaulting strangers, etc., etc. Merely saying "okay sure that's fine and all but the other side aren't saints" isn't in the least helpful, and implies a serious lack of understanding about present realities.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Mik said in Send in the Marshals.:

                    I think she was saying there is hate on both sides, which is true. But what determines the degree is how it is acted upon. The left's actions clearly mark them as far more hateful.

                    It's an important distinction, too, because we're not talking about who's being more nasty on the internet. One side is much more consistent with burning cars, setting businesses on fire, destroying public property, creating public nuisances, assaulting strangers, etc., etc. Merely saying "okay sure that's fine and all but the other side aren't saints" isn't in the least helpful, and implies a serious lack of understanding about present realities.

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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Send in the Marshals.:

                    but the other side aren't saints" isn't in the least helpful, and implies a serious lack of understanding about present realities.

                    Thought experiment. Say the widow I mentioned above had her car burned. You ask her, which would you rather have back? Your unburned car or your husband?

                    Yeah, she'd probably shrug and say he knew what he signed up for. She knows this because the President of the United States said so.

                    Amirite?

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      No. No you're not. For fuck's sake Cats, conservatives didn't kill the soldier in your example; I shouldn't have to tell you that it's an outrageous false equivalence. The guy who voted for Trump, who is in charge of the military, who has commanders sending soldiers into danger doesn't share the same liability as someone actually leaving their house and using their own two hands to set a car on fire.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        No. No you're not. For fuck's sake Cats, conservatives didn't kill the soldier in your example; I shouldn't have to tell you that it's an outrageous false equivalence. The guy who voted for Trump, who is in charge of the military, who has commanders sending soldiers into danger doesn't share the same liability as someone actually leaving their house and using their own two hands to set a car on fire.

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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Send in the Marshals.:

                        No. No you're not. For fuck's sake Cats, conservatives didn't kill the soldier in your example; I shouldn't have to tell you that it's an outrageous false equivalence. The guy who voted for Trump, who is in charge of the military, who has commanders sending soldiers into danger doesn't share the same liability as someone actually leaving their house and using their own two hands to set a car on fire.

                        The dead soldier was not my point. My point is that what Trump said to the widow over the guy's coffin right there at graveside, was staggeringly destructive, to say the very least.

                        Did you think I was focused on the soldier? Really?

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                        Now that we've exchanged insults, let's call it even and rather than continuing to behave like assholes, just agree to disagree.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #25

                          Why is this a conversation about Trump at all. I'm not going to try to convince you that Trump isn't an asshole. That has nothing to do with which group of people is causing more problems out there.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            @Catseye3 said in Send in the Marshals.:

                            Thought experiment. Say the widow I mentioned above had her car burned. You ask her, which would you rather have back? Your unburned car or your husband?

                            What brand of car?

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                              @Catseye3 said in Send in the Marshals.:

                              Thought experiment. Say the widow I mentioned above had her car burned. You ask her, which would you rather have back? Your unburned car or your husband?

                              What brand of car?

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                              @Rainman said in Send in the Marshals.:

                              What brand of car?

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                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Send in the Marshals.:

                                No. No you're not. For fuck's sake Cats, conservatives didn't kill the soldier in your example; I shouldn't have to tell you that it's an outrageous false equivalence. The guy who voted for Trump, who is in charge of the military, who has commanders sending soldiers into danger doesn't share the same liability as someone actually leaving their house and using their own two hands to set a car on fire.

                                The dead soldier was not my point. My point is that what Trump said to the widow over the guy's coffin right there at graveside, was staggeringly destructive, to say the very least.

                                Did you think I was focused on the soldier? Really?

                                4ec9238f-683e-412d-914c-c9e5b733c94c-image.png

                                Now that we've exchanged insults, let's call it even and rather than continuing to behave like assholes, just agree to disagree.

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                                @Catseye3 said in Send in the Marshals.:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Send in the Marshals.:

                                No. No you're not. For fuck's sake Cats, conservatives didn't kill the soldier in your example; I shouldn't have to tell you that it's an outrageous false equivalence. The guy who voted for Trump, who is in charge of the military, who has commanders sending soldiers into danger doesn't share the same liability as someone actually leaving their house and using their own two hands to set a car on fire.

                                The dead soldier was not my point. My point is that what Trump said to the widow over the guy's coffin right there at graveside, was staggeringly destructive, to say the very least.

                                Did you think I was focused on the soldier? Really?

                                4ec9238f-683e-412d-914c-c9e5b733c94c-image.png

                                Now that we've exchanged insults, let's call it even and rather than continuing to behave like assholes, just agree to disagree.

                                "knew what he signed up for … but when it happens, it hurts anyway". As reported by the New York Post, that's what Trump allegedly said.

                                How you can equate that with beating Jews that happen to support Trump?

                                Link to video

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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