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The Biden Coup

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  • G George K
    16 Nov 2020, 18:37

    @bachophile said in The Biden Coup:

    what trump is doing is unprecedented

    What, specifically, with regard to the transition is he doing that is unprecedented? He's disputing the validity of the election, pointless as it seems. It's a serious question. We're only 13 days since the election which he seems to have lost.

    Just for a sense of perspective, 43's transition was done in 39 days, when Al Gore disputed the election.

    Edit to add: I'm not justifying it by any means. Simply pointing out that it's not unprecedented.

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    xenon
    wrote on 16 Nov 2020, 19:12 last edited by xenon
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    @George-K said in The Biden Coup:

    @bachophile said in The Biden Coup:

    what trump is doing is unprecedented

    What, specifically, with regard to the transition is he doing that is unprecedented? He's disputing the validity of the election, pointless as it seems. It's a serious question. We're only 13 days since the election which he seems to have lost.

    Just for a sense of perspective, 43's transition was done in 39 days, when Al Gore disputed the election.

    Edit to add: I'm not justifying it by any means. Simply pointing out that it's not unprecedented.

    It’s not unprecedented at all. It doesn’t seem like a good thing though.

    In the 9/11 commission report, it mentioned that the short transition was a potential contributing factor to under-preparedness on terrorism.

    GWB started preparing transition material 6 months ahead of the transition and work was well, well underway by the time the Obama transition started.

    A terror plot was also foiled during Obama’s transition.

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    • J Jolly
      16 Nov 2020, 19:09

      @Loki said in The Biden Coup:

      @bachophile said in The Biden Coup:

      at what point will people give in? Biden will be on the capitol podium getting sworn in in January. People can in their mind accept or not accept his legitimacy. But he will be the one sworn in. On that I have no doubt and if you question that, then someone else has their heads buried in the asses so deep they can’t see what’s obvious to most of the population including most republicans. I’ll be happy to bump this post in January for those who think otherwise.

      If you choose in your mind to not accept it, that’s certainly your right but it won’t change the reality on the ground.

      At what point did the democrats truly give in on the legitimacy of the Trump Presidency? Many thought he was installed by Putin and the media spent 4 years trying to prove it and the House tried to remove him.

      Jon has never referred to Trump as President Trump. Oh, he managed to find one reference that was half-ass, but I don't count it. Maybe Captain Pedantic would, but Ax ain't judging this one.

      At least Jon would say his name. There were multiple dipshits across the fence who would snigger as they referred to President Trump as Individual One or as I-1.

      At least, if Biden is sworn in, I will refer to him as President Biden. I might spit when I do it, but I've got that much class.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 16 Nov 2020, 19:19 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in The Biden Coup:

      Jon has never referred to Trump as President Trump. Oh, he managed to find one reference that was half-ass, but I don't count it. Maybe Captain Pedantic would, but Ax ain't judging this one.

      At least Jon would say his name. There were multiple dipshits across the fence who would snigger as they referred to President Trump as Individual One or as I-1.

      At least, if Biden is sworn in, I will refer to him as President Biden. I might spit when I do it, but I've got that much class.

      I seem to remember most conservatives here referring to President Obama as 'Obama'. I know I did, and I'm not even a conservative. Well ok, some referred to him as Barack Hussein Obama, and at least one routinely referred to him as Mr. Obama, generally following up with the honorific 'Two bit thug'.

      I'm not convinced all the pearl clutching is really justified.

      I was only joking

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      • J Jolly
        16 Nov 2020, 19:09

        @Loki said in The Biden Coup:

        @bachophile said in The Biden Coup:

        at what point will people give in? Biden will be on the capitol podium getting sworn in in January. People can in their mind accept or not accept his legitimacy. But he will be the one sworn in. On that I have no doubt and if you question that, then someone else has their heads buried in the asses so deep they can’t see what’s obvious to most of the population including most republicans. I’ll be happy to bump this post in January for those who think otherwise.

        If you choose in your mind to not accept it, that’s certainly your right but it won’t change the reality on the ground.

        At what point did the democrats truly give in on the legitimacy of the Trump Presidency? Many thought he was installed by Putin and the media spent 4 years trying to prove it and the House tried to remove him.

        Jon has never referred to Trump as President Trump. Oh, he managed to find one reference that was half-ass, but I don't count it. Maybe Captain Pedantic would, but Ax ain't judging this one.

        At least Jon would say his name. There were multiple dipshits across the fence who would snigger as they referred to President Trump as Individual One or as I-1.

        At least, if Biden is sworn in, I will refer to him as President Biden. I might spit when I do it, but I've got that much class.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 16 Nov 2020, 19:33 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in The Biden Coup:

        on has never referred to Trump as President Trump.

        Neither have I. Jon and I separately announced our intention to not do so in the beginning.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • C Catseye3
          16 Nov 2020, 19:33

          @Jolly said in The Biden Coup:

          on has never referred to Trump as President Trump.

          Neither have I. Jon and I separately announced our intention to not do so in the beginning.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 16 Nov 2020, 19:56 last edited by
          #36

          @Catseye3 said in The Biden Coup:

          @Jolly said in The Biden Coup:

          on has never referred to Trump as President Trump.

          Neither have I. Jon and I separately announced our intention to not do so in the beginning.

          You're both classless dipshits.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • bachophileB bachophile
            16 Nov 2020, 17:07

            at what point will people give in? Biden will be on the capitol podium getting sworn in in January. People can in their mind accept or not accept his legitimacy. But he will be the one sworn in. On that I have no doubt and if you question that, then someone else has their heads buried in the asses so deep they can’t see what’s obvious to most of the population including most republicans. I’ll be happy to bump this post in January for those who think otherwise.

            If you choose in your mind to not accept it, that’s certainly your right but it won’t change the reality on the ground.

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            Larry
            wrote on 16 Nov 2020, 20:55 last edited by
            #37

            @bachophile said in The Biden Coup:

            at what point will people give in? Biden will be on the capitol podium getting sworn in in January. People can in their mind accept or not accept his legitimacy. But he will be the one sworn in. On that I have no doubt and if you question that, then someone else has their heads buried in the asses so deep they can’t see what’s obvious to most of the population including most republicans. I’ll be happy to bump this post in January for those who think otherwise.

            If you choose in your mind to not accept it, that’s certainly your right but it won’t change the reality on the ground.

            Let me make sure I'm being understood. I don't have a problem with accepting it if Biden is declared the winner. What I have a problem with is the mad push going on by the media, the democrat party, and the lefties here insisting that all investigating stop immediately, call Biden the winner, and then shut up about it, all while utterly ignoring the fact that what Trump is doing is literally required by the Constitution. Heck, some are even trying to floaty the claim that these investigations are bad for the country. That's pure hog wash.

            If Biden is shown to have legitimately won the election, fine. But stop pushing to end the investigations. It makes it look like you ( the collective you) have something to hide. Stop claiming that if you are in favor of letting the investigations run their course it means you're in denial, refusing to accept the outcome, etc.

            You can tell me You think I'm wrong. You can tell me my candidate choice is an asshole. But don't talk down to me.

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            • C Catseye3
              16 Nov 2020, 19:33

              @Jolly said in The Biden Coup:

              on has never referred to Trump as President Trump.

              Neither have I. Jon and I separately announced our intention to not do so in the beginning.

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              Larry
              wrote on 16 Nov 2020, 20:58 last edited by
              #38

              @Catseye3 said in The Biden Coup:

              @Jolly said in The Biden Coup:

              on has never referred to Trump as President Trump.

              Neither have I. Jon and I separately announced our intention to not do so in the beginning.

              Whether you called him president or not doesn't alter the fact that he IS president, nor does it change the fact that your view of him is wrong, and history will remember him as a great president.

              TRUMP 2024! MAGA

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              • L Larry
                16 Nov 2020, 20:58

                @Catseye3 said in The Biden Coup:

                @Jolly said in The Biden Coup:

                on has never referred to Trump as President Trump.

                Neither have I. Jon and I separately announced our intention to not do so in the beginning.

                Whether you called him president or not doesn't alter the fact that he IS president, nor does it change the fact that your view of him is wrong, and history will remember him as a great president.

                TRUMP 2024! MAGA

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 16 Nov 2020, 21:11 last edited by
                #39

                @Larry said in The Biden Coup:

                TRUMP 2024! MAGA

                I guess Larry's called it for Biden.

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  16 Nov 2020, 19:19

                  @Jolly said in The Biden Coup:

                  Jon has never referred to Trump as President Trump. Oh, he managed to find one reference that was half-ass, but I don't count it. Maybe Captain Pedantic would, but Ax ain't judging this one.

                  At least Jon would say his name. There were multiple dipshits across the fence who would snigger as they referred to President Trump as Individual One or as I-1.

                  At least, if Biden is sworn in, I will refer to him as President Biden. I might spit when I do it, but I've got that much class.

                  I seem to remember most conservatives here referring to President Obama as 'Obama'. I know I did, and I'm not even a conservative. Well ok, some referred to him as Barack Hussein Obama, and at least one routinely referred to him as Mr. Obama, generally following up with the honorific 'Two bit thug'.

                  I'm not convinced all the pearl clutching is really justified.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 01:02 last edited by
                  #40

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Biden Coup:

                  I seem to remember most conservatives here referring to President Obama as 'Obama'. I know I did, and I'm not even a conservative. Well ok, some referred to him as Barack Hussein Obama, and at least one routinely referred to him as Mr. Obama,

                  Barry Sotero please.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 01:21 last edited by
                    #41

                    Bath-house Barry, to you!

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      bachophile
                      wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 03:58 last edited by
                      #42

                      I don’t call for the investigations to cease immediately. By all means investigate.

                      I think it’s the judges who seem to be throwing out the cases.

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                      • bachophileB bachophile
                        17 Nov 2020, 03:58

                        I don’t call for the investigations to cease immediately. By all means investigate.

                        I think it’s the judges who seem to be throwing out the cases.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 12:13 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #43

                        @bachophile said in The Biden Coup:

                        I don’t call for the investigations to cease immediately. By all means investigate.

                        I think it’s the judges who seem to be throwing out the cases.

                        The fact that they can't see what is blindingly obvious to all of the self-taught Constitutional Experts in this country is a sad indictment of the education and legal systems.

                        I was only joking

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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 13:04 last edited by
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                          It may be that the judge has to hear the lawyers' presentations before he can apply the law as to whether the case needs to be heard. That is uniquely his job in the system.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • bachophileB bachophile
                            17 Nov 2020, 03:58

                            I don’t call for the investigations to cease immediately. By all means investigate.

                            I think it’s the judges who seem to be throwing out the cases.

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                            Larry
                            wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 14:08 last edited by
                            #45

                            @bachophile said in The Biden Coup:

                            I don’t call for the investigations to cease immediately. By all means investigate.

                            I think it’s the judges who seem to be throwing out the cases.

                            Remember, I even said it in my post - I meant "you" in the collective, not you personally.

                            This narrative about judges throwing out cases is very misleading. Yes, a few small cases have been thrown out. But some have not, and many are still winding their way through the system. Plus, more is being learned every day.

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                              bachophile
                              wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 16:12 last edited by
                              #46

                              Yes I understood it wasn’t me personally. And yes I personally am happy to encourage investigations on the assumption that most intelligent people will put the fraud conspiracy to rest when the courts so rule.

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                16 Nov 2020, 19:19

                                @Jolly said in The Biden Coup:

                                Jon has never referred to Trump as President Trump. Oh, he managed to find one reference that was half-ass, but I don't count it. Maybe Captain Pedantic would, but Ax ain't judging this one.

                                At least Jon would say his name. There were multiple dipshits across the fence who would snigger as they referred to President Trump as Individual One or as I-1.

                                At least, if Biden is sworn in, I will refer to him as President Biden. I might spit when I do it, but I've got that much class.

                                I seem to remember most conservatives here referring to President Obama as 'Obama'. I know I did, and I'm not even a conservative. Well ok, some referred to him as Barack Hussein Obama, and at least one routinely referred to him as Mr. Obama, generally following up with the honorific 'Two bit thug'.

                                I'm not convinced all the pearl clutching is really justified.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 21 Nov 2020, 20:42 last edited by
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Biden Coup:

                                Well ok, some referred to him as Barack Hussein Obama, and at least one routinely referred to him as Mr. Obama, generally following up with the honorific 'Two bit thug'.

                                I never understood that as an honorific. An occasionally impolite euphemism but not an honorific.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  bachophile
                                  wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 16:06 last edited by
                                  #48

                                  Got a reminder to bump this thread before the inauguration. Not sure if I remember why.

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    16 Nov 2020, 13:58

                                    Words are liberating...

                                    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/its_a_coup_just_say_it.html

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 18:37 last edited by
                                    #49

                                    @jolly said in The Biden Coup:

                                    Words are liberating...

                                    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/its_a_coup_just_say_it.html

                                    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/statement.html

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • R Renauda
                                      21 Nov 2020, 20:42

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Biden Coup:

                                      Well ok, some referred to him as Barack Hussein Obama, and at least one routinely referred to him as Mr. Obama, generally following up with the honorific 'Two bit thug'.

                                      I never understood that as an honorific. An occasionally impolite euphemism but not an honorific.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 21:36 last edited by
                                      #50

                                      @renauda said in The Biden Coup:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Biden Coup:

                                      Well ok, some referred to him as Barack Hussein Obama, and at least one routinely referred to him as Mr. Obama, generally following up with the honorific 'Two bit thug'.

                                      I never understood that as an honorific. An occasionally impolite euphemism but not an honorific.

                                      And some called him by his real name Barry Soetoro, but mostly just those in the inner circle.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer
                                        19 Jan 2021, 18:37

                                        @jolly said in The Biden Coup:

                                        Words are liberating...

                                        https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/its_a_coup_just_say_it.html

                                        https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/statement.html

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 22:05 last edited by Jolly
                                        #51

                                        @aqua-letifer said in The Biden Coup:

                                        @jolly said in The Biden Coup:

                                        Words are liberating...

                                        https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/its_a_coup_just_say_it.html

                                        https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/statement.html

                                        And if you think lawyers and Truth are mutual friends, you need your diaper changed.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          19 Jan 2021, 22:05

                                          @aqua-letifer said in The Biden Coup:

                                          @jolly said in The Biden Coup:

                                          Words are liberating...

                                          https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/its_a_coup_just_say_it.html

                                          https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/statement.html

                                          And if you think lawyers and Truth are mutual friends, you need your diaper changed.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 22:15 last edited by
                                          #52

                                          @jolly said in The Biden Coup:

                                          And if you think lawyers and Truth are mutual friends, you need your diaper changed.

                                          I've told this before. When I was an intern, I shared an apartment with a friend from college, whose name was also, coincidentally, George. He started law school in September.

                                          George (me): So what did you learn in school today (asked as though I were a parent asking a 3rd grader)?

                                          George (not me): I learned that that the law has nothing to do with the truth and it has nothing to do with justice.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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