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Don't be a whore.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 14 Nov 2020, 16:32 last edited by
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    And want a career teaching school...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/i-lost-my-job-as-an-nyc-public-school-teacher-for-having-a-provocative-past-here-s-how-i-turned-the-humiliating-experience-into-a-flourishing-freelance-career/ar-BB1b0PPG?ocid=msedgntp

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 14 Nov 2020, 18:06 last edited by
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      Should certain professions have a higher “standard” when it is about what you do on your private time (as long as it is legal)?

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      • T taiwan_girl
        14 Nov 2020, 18:06

        Should certain professions have a higher “standard” when it is about what you do on your private time (as long as it is legal)?

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        Jolly
        wrote on 14 Nov 2020, 18:29 last edited by
        #3

        @taiwan_girl said in Don't be a whore.:

        Should certain professions have a higher “standard” when it is about what you do on your private time (as long as it is legal)?

        Life doesn't work that way.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • T taiwan_girl
          14 Nov 2020, 18:06

          Should certain professions have a higher “standard” when it is about what you do on your private time (as long as it is legal)?

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 05:17 last edited by
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          @taiwan_girl said in Don't be a whore.:

          Should certain professions have a higher “standard” when it is about what you do on your private time (as long as it is legal)?

          Ask any government contractor. That's absolutely the expectation.

          Please love yourself.

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            Mik
            wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 05:21 last edited by
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            Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              kluurs
              wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 05:32 last edited by
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              People do things to survive - and if that's what she had to do - so be it, but she should have shown more discretion in sharing that information.

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              • M Mik
                15 Nov 2020, 05:21

                Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

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                Klaus
                wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 11:19 last edited by
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                @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

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                • K Klaus
                  15 Nov 2020, 11:19

                  @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                  Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                  Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 11:20 last edited by
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                  @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                  @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                  Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                  Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                  Judgement.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • K Klaus
                    15 Nov 2020, 11:19

                    @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                    Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                    Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 16:40 last edited by
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                    @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                    Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                    Disagree all you want, but yours is an outlier opinion. I'm not saying it should be, but that's the way it is.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • J Jolly
                      15 Nov 2020, 11:20

                      @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                      @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                      Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                      Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                      Judgement.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 17:26 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in Don't be a whore.:

                      @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                      @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                      Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                      Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                      Judgement.

                      It shows a society's poor judgement when a competent teacher is prevented from teaching just because said teacher also worked in the sex industry in the past. Such prudery wastes human talents.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 18:35 last edited by
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                        There's still places where an unmarried teacher will get let go if she gets pregnant.

                        I was only joking

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                        • A Aqua Letifer
                          15 Nov 2020, 16:40

                          @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                          Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                          Disagree all you want, but yours is an outlier opinion. I'm not saying it should be, but that's the way it is.

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 20:43 last edited by
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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Don't be a whore.:

                          @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                          Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                          Disagree all you want, but yours is an outlier opinion. I'm not saying it should be, but that's the way it is.

                          Maybe in the US.

                          I've read of several former prostitutes who became teacher over here. It's not so uncommon for female students to finance their studies that way. It's no big deal.

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                          • A Axtremus
                            15 Nov 2020, 17:26

                            @Jolly said in Don't be a whore.:

                            @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                            @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                            Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                            Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                            Judgement.

                            It shows a society's poor judgement when a competent teacher is prevented from teaching just because said teacher also worked in the sex industry in the past. Such prudery wastes human talents.

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                            Ivorythumper
                            wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 21:01 last edited by
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                            @Axtremus said in Don't be a whore.:

                            @Jolly said in Don't be a whore.:

                            @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                            @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                            Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                            Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                            Judgement.

                            It shows a society's poor judgement when a competent teacher is prevented from teaching just because said teacher also worked in the sex industry in the past. Such prudery wastes human talents.

                            It's a competitive world -- if you have two equally qualified candidates, one with a sketchy past, and one without, you hire the one without. The world is full of talented human beings, your position would make sense if that talent was in dire need, otherwise it seems more obvious that she wasted her own opportunities and truncated her own future by poor choices which made her less competitive. People do this all the time on a whole range of decisions.

                            I'm sure her considerable talents lie elsewhere... 😉

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                              Ivorythumper
                              wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 21:02 last edited by
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                              Link to video

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                                15 Nov 2020, 21:01

                                @Axtremus said in Don't be a whore.:

                                @Jolly said in Don't be a whore.:

                                @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                                @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                                Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                                Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                                Judgement.

                                It shows a society's poor judgement when a competent teacher is prevented from teaching just because said teacher also worked in the sex industry in the past. Such prudery wastes human talents.

                                It's a competitive world -- if you have two equally qualified candidates, one with a sketchy past, and one without, you hire the one without. The world is full of talented human beings, your position would make sense if that talent was in dire need, otherwise it seems more obvious that she wasted her own opportunities and truncated her own future by poor choices which made her less competitive. People do this all the time on a whole range of decisions.

                                I'm sure her considerable talents lie elsewhere... 😉

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                                Klaus
                                wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 21:12 last edited by
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                                @Ivorythumper said in Don't be a whore.:

                                It's a competitive world -- if you have two equally qualified candidates, one with a sketchy past, and one without, you hire the one without.

                                Agreed. But what if the one with the sketchy past is more qualified?

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 21:20 last edited by Mik
                                  #16

                                  Qualifications are very good on paper, but at least as important is how someone presents themself. I have frequently hired the less qualified individual who I felt had the chutzpah to learn quickly and be an asset to the team. You can teach technical skills. Teaching interpersonal relations and drive is a lot harder. I have also had to fire people who were very qualified to the point where they felt they knew better than anyone else there.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • K kluurs
                                    15 Nov 2020, 05:32

                                    People do things to survive - and if that's what she had to do - so be it, but she should have shown more discretion in sharing that information.

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                                    Loki
                                    wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 21:39 last edited by
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                                    @kluurs said in Don't be a whore.:

                                    People do things to survive - and if that's what she had to do - so be it, but she should have shown more discretion in sharing that information.

                                    I definitely would agree that survival is a very good reason but I would have to understand why doing this was necessary for survival.

                                    People are routinely cancelled, deplatformed, lose their jobs etc for their politics but this is okay? Please walk me through that someone.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 22:03 last edited by Mik
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                                      Yes. I question why someone who has gotten to be a grad student has to sell their body and integrity to survive. Student loans are just not that tough to get. I think it safe to assume that this was simply a way she found more convenient and lucrative. I'd sure never marry her.

                                      What kind of a teacher do you think I am?

                                      We've already established that.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 22:16 last edited by
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                                        I have no doubt a good prostitute could teach my boy plenty but that’s not what school is for.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • K Klaus
                                          15 Nov 2020, 21:12

                                          @Ivorythumper said in Don't be a whore.:

                                          It's a competitive world -- if you have two equally qualified candidates, one with a sketchy past, and one without, you hire the one without.

                                          Agreed. But what if the one with the sketchy past is more qualified?

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                                          Ivorythumper
                                          wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 22:19 last edited by
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                                          @Klaus She's in NYC. Should be able to find several thousand applicants as or more qualified without a sketchy past.

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