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Here come the payoffs for youth vote.

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  • X xenon

    The government should get out of the business of providing unlimited loan money for schools.

    If it wants to subsidize post-secondary - it needs to do that directly and not incentivize administrative bloat by giving students unlimited money.

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    @xenon said in Here come the payoffs for youth vote.:

    The government should get out of the business of providing unlimited loan money for schools.

    If it wants to subsidize post-secondary - it needs to do that directly and not incentivize administrative bloat by giving students unlimited money.

    100% in agreement.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      I think it's an awesome idea.

      In fact, I think they should pay students to go to college over the next 4 years, and give their parents free beer for raising such upstanding citizens.

      Sod you lot!

      I was only joking

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        I might use some sod on my lot in the places where I just can't get the seed to grow. But it might be too late in the year to find sod at Lowes.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          I think it's an awesome idea.

          In fact, I think they should pay students to go to college over the next 4 years, and give their parents free beer for raising such upstanding citizens.

          Sod you lot!

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          LuFins Dad
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          #14

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Here come the payoffs for youth vote.:

          I think it's an awesome idea.

          In fact, I think they should pay students to go to college over the next 4 years, and give their parents free beer for raising such upstanding citizens.

          Sod you lot!

          I agree!

          The Brad

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            Charity begins at home.

            And in my case, never leaves. Just like my freaking kids.

            I was only joking

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              I’m fine with just making it dischargeable in bankruptcy like (almost) any other debt.

              And dial back the subsidies. Make the lenders more responsible and that will vastly improve the incentive structure for students and universities.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                #17

                You can thank the democrats for forcing the private sector out of the student loan business and then fucking it all up in the first place.

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                  I agee with those above who say that it is a bad idea.

                  Because it is a bad idea!!

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                    I'm from the government and I'm here to help you.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        I rather suspect that cancelling student debt will prove to be eerily similar to replacing Obamacare and Mexico paying for the fabled wall.

                        I was only joking

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                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Please wait at least 1 year! 4 would be better!

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Please wait at least 1 year! 4 would be better!

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Here come the payoffs for youth vote.:

                              Please wait at least 1 year! 4 would be better!

                              I poured beaucoup bucks into my kids' college education. They all graduated with no debt.

                              Where is the office I go to to get my money back?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Wait until we hear Biden say it.

                                What we have now is a Warren plan from the summer and a commissioned opinion that it would be within the law.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  No doubt he will delay. The provision allegedly to cancel comes from the Higher Education Act of...Wait for it....1964.

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                                    Meh. Far more complicated than that.

                                    https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Ltr to Warren re admin debt cancellation.pdf

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      Maybe we should think of this as reparations for selling them a bill of goods about the value of their degrees.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Well there you go.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Maybe we should think of this as reparations for selling them a bill of goods about the value of their degrees.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Here come the payoffs for youth vote.:

                                          Maybe we should think of this as reparations for selling them a bill of goods about the value of their degrees.

                                          Oh boy, you know when schooling is free you know what you will get. Those good paying jobs are about to get outsourced. Man, if their rhetoric caused their downfall, well, yikes.

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