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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by xenon
    #3

    The parties have been highjacked - but I think the bigger underlying issue is a cultural divide.

    There’s a growing divide on “what gives life meaning” sort of values (role of family, religion, identify, community, etc.)

    I have a lot of pet theories on why this is becoming more acute now. Maybe people have smaller communities in their own lives now - so they place outsized emphasis on things like politics.

    Politics seems deeply, deeply personal now.

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      Cuban is an idiot, with no sense of history.

      The genius of the two party system is two-fold. It keeps radicals from seizing power and it often ensures gridlock. On most issues, the government that does the least, is actually to be desired. Gridlock is good.

      We think we gave huge issues. Most of the time we don't. Keep taxes fairly low, provide opportunity pathways and government can get out of the way while the people sort things out.

      A major war is a big deal. A bad financial depression s a big deal. A world-wide pandemic is a big deal. At the appropriate time and in a compromise manner, the two parties will work together for mutual benefit, addressing those things which must be addressed.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        I think a lot of people would agree that there were better candidates from both parties. I think we need people with a better understanding of technology and the issues technology is bringing to all of us.

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        @kluurs said in Mark Cuban's recommendations for future elections:

        ... I think we need people with a better understanding of technology and the issues technology is bringing to all of us.

        Andrew Yang. He did not make it through the Democratic Primary.

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          Cuban is an idiot, with no sense of history.

          The genius of the two party system is two-fold. It keeps radicals from seizing power and it often ensures gridlock. On most issues, the government that does the least, is actually to be desired. Gridlock is good.

          We think we gave huge issues. Most of the time we don't. Keep taxes fairly low, provide opportunity pathways and government can get out of the way while the people sort things out.

          A major war is a big deal. A bad financial depression s a big deal. A world-wide pandemic is a big deal. At the appropriate time and in a compromise manner, the two parties will work together for mutual benefit, addressing those things which must be addressed.

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          George Washington on a related topic:

          I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

          This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

          The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

          Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

          It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

          https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Cuban is an idiot, with no sense of history.

            The genius of the two party system is two-fold. It keeps radicals from seizing power and it often ensures gridlock. On most issues, the government that does the least, is actually to be desired. Gridlock is good.

            We think we gave huge issues. Most of the time we don't. Keep taxes fairly low, provide opportunity pathways and government can get out of the way while the people sort things out.

            A major war is a big deal. A bad financial depression s a big deal. A world-wide pandemic is a big deal. At the appropriate time and in a compromise manner, the two parties will work together for mutual benefit, addressing those things which must be addressed.

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            @Jolly said in Mark Cuban's recommendations for future elections:

            Cuban is an idiot, with no sense of history.

            The genius of the two party system is two-fold. It keeps radicals from seizing power and it often ensures gridlock. On most issues, the government that does the least, is actually to be desired. Gridlock is good.

            We think we gave huge issues. Most of the time we don't. Keep taxes fairly low, provide opportunity pathways and government can get out of the way while the people sort things out.

            A major war is a big deal. A bad financial depression s a big deal. A world-wide pandemic is a big deal. At the appropriate time and in a compromise manner, the two parties will work together for mutual benefit, addressing those things which must be addressed.

            I don’t know Mark Cuban, so can’t comment on him, but the rest of what you write I think makes a lot of sense.

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              Mark Cuban on President Trump

              Former President Donald Trump’s Silicon Valley backers don’t really support his bid for the White House, according to Mark Cuban — they just think they can control him.

              “I think they believe they can manipulate him,” Cuban said earlier this week during an interview with Brian Tyler Cohen. “I think they understand that he’s so transactional and so devoid of core values that anything that they want they can manipulate him to get.”

              As for Musk specifically, Cuban said he’s backing the former president because “having the power to manipulate the most powerful man in the world is far more valuable in the world than any amount of [electric vehicle] sales from Tesla.”

              “Elon is all in [on Trump],” Cuban added. “That’s why I like to f— with him on Twitter.” The two men frequently criticize each other, especially on social media.

              Cuban also called Trump the “most unethical” and “dishonest” individual he’s ever worked with.

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                Cuban’s a joke. From the little I know, the one person I would trust less than Trump is Cuban.

                The Brad

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                  Cuban’s a joke. From the little I know, the one person I would trust less than Trump is Cuban.

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Mark Cuban's recommendations for future elections:

                  Cuban’s a joke. From the little I know, the one person I would trust less than Trump is Cuban.

                  I dont know much about him, but it seems he was in the right place at the right time to sell his internet business.

                  (But I agree, money by itself does not mean someone is smarter or has more insights)

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                    Mark Cuban on President Trump

                    Former President Donald Trump’s Silicon Valley backers don’t really support his bid for the White House, according to Mark Cuban — they just think they can control him.

                    “I think they believe they can manipulate him,” Cuban said earlier this week during an interview with Brian Tyler Cohen. “I think they understand that he’s so transactional and so devoid of core values that anything that they want they can manipulate him to get.”

                    As for Musk specifically, Cuban said he’s backing the former president because “having the power to manipulate the most powerful man in the world is far more valuable in the world than any amount of [electric vehicle] sales from Tesla.”

                    “Elon is all in [on Trump],” Cuban added. “That’s why I like to f— with him on Twitter.” The two men frequently criticize each other, especially on social media.

                    Cuban also called Trump the “most unethical” and “dishonest” individual he’s ever worked with.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    “I think they understand that he’s so transactional and so devoid of core values that anything that they want they can manipulate him to get.”

                    Say it ain’t so!

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      The Brad

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                        kluurs
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                        How many charities has he defrauded?

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                        • kluursK kluurs

                          How many charities has he defrauded?

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @kluurs said in Mark Cuban's recommendations for future elections:

                          How many charities has he defrauded?

                          Trump or Cuban? Trump mostly defrauded his own foundation. Not aware of Cuban defrauding anybody except his investors.

                          The Brad

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