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  • A Axtremus
    10 Nov 2020, 23:49

    To answer @George-K's question "why not a woman," probably because they've already got Sen. Diane Feinstein.

    Why not someone who's gay?
    Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

    This is the criterion by which we choose public "servants" apparently.

    There was a time when only straight white Christian men could be hired/chosen/elected/appointed public servants in the country. I suppose this is karma now that some population now wants "non-White", "not-male" be hired/chosen/elected/appointed. Maybe we will get to a point where no one thinks in tribal terms anymore, maybe not. But as long as competence is still considered, the identity preference wheel can rotate and change over time but on the whole we should come out alright.

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    George K
    wrote on 10 Nov 2020, 23:51 last edited by
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    @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

    To answer @George-K's question "why not a woman," probably because they've already got Sen. Diane Feinstein.

    Nothing says "fairness" more than quotas.

    "Well, we already have a woman here, we don't DARE appoint ANOTHER one!"

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      10 Nov 2020, 23:51

      @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

      To answer @George-K's question "why not a woman," probably because they've already got Sen. Diane Feinstein.

      Nothing says "fairness" more than quotas.

      "Well, we already have a woman here, we don't DARE appoint ANOTHER one!"

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 10 Nov 2020, 23:53 last edited by
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      @George-K said in Why not a woman?:

      @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

      To answer @George-K's question "why not a woman," probably because they've already got Sen. Diane Feinstein.

      Nothing says "fairness" more than quotas.

      "Well, we already have a woman here, we don't DARE appoint ANOTHER one!"

      Not stating a gender preference is not the same as excluding a gender.
      Have you any evidence that suggests Californians oppose the appointment of another woman?

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      • A Axtremus
        10 Nov 2020, 23:53

        @George-K said in Why not a woman?:

        @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

        To answer @George-K's question "why not a woman," probably because they've already got Sen. Diane Feinstein.

        Nothing says "fairness" more than quotas.

        "Well, we already have a woman here, we don't DARE appoint ANOTHER one!"

        Not stating a gender preference is not the same as excluding a gender.
        Have you any evidence that suggests Californians oppose the appointment of another woman?

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        George K
        wrote on 10 Nov 2020, 23:56 last edited by George K 11 Oct 2020, 23:57
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        @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

        Have you any evidence that suggests Californians oppose the appointment of another woman?

        No, but I have evidence that a Californian governor should oppose anyone who is not Latino Latinx.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • A Axtremus
          10 Nov 2020, 23:49

          To answer @George-K's question "why not a woman," probably because they've already got Sen. Diane Feinstein.

          Why not someone who's gay?
          Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

          This is the criterion by which we choose public "servants" apparently.

          There was a time when only straight white Christian men could be hired/chosen/elected/appointed public servants in the country. I suppose this is karma now that some population now wants "non-White", "not-male" be hired/chosen/elected/appointed. Maybe we will get to a point where no one thinks in tribal terms anymore, maybe not. But as long as competence is still considered, the identity preference wheel can rotate and change over time but on the whole we should come out alright.

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          Larry
          wrote on 10 Nov 2020, 23:59 last edited by
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          @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

          To answer @George-K's question "why not a woman," probably because they've already got Sen. Diane Feinstein.

          Why not someone who's gay?
          Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

          This is the criterion by which we choose public "servants" apparently.

          There was a time when only straight white Christian men could be hired/chosen/elected/appointed public servants in the country. I suppose this is karma now that some population now wants "non-White", "not-male" be hired/chosen/elected/appointed. Maybe we will get to a point where no one thinks in tribal terms anymore, maybe not. But as long as competence is still considered, the identity preference wheel can rotate and change over time but on the whole we should come out alright.

          Bull shit. Did they teach you that garbage in Social Studies class?

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          • A Axtremus
            10 Nov 2020, 23:49

            To answer @George-K's question "why not a woman," probably because they've already got Sen. Diane Feinstein.

            Why not someone who's gay?
            Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

            This is the criterion by which we choose public "servants" apparently.

            There was a time when only straight white Christian men could be hired/chosen/elected/appointed public servants in the country. I suppose this is karma now that some population now wants "non-White", "not-male" be hired/chosen/elected/appointed. Maybe we will get to a point where no one thinks in tribal terms anymore, maybe not. But as long as competence is still considered, the identity preference wheel can rotate and change over time but on the whole we should come out alright.

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            xenon
            wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 00:02 last edited by xenon 11 Nov 2020, 00:02
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            @Axtremus as someone who is involved in recruiting on a couple of fronts (alumni and for my company) - I can assure you there is little white / male preference these days.

            I'd hate to be one of those shmucks - especially if they don't have a rich daddy like everyone now just assumes they do.

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            • G George K
              10 Nov 2020, 23:56

              @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

              Have you any evidence that suggests Californians oppose the appointment of another woman?

              No, but I have evidence that a Californian governor should oppose anyone who is not Latino Latinx.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 00:05 last edited by
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              @George-K said in Why not a woman?:

              @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

              Have you any evidence that suggests Californians oppose the appointment of another woman?

              No, ...

              OK, the threat title seems to move increasingly further from available evidence now, does it not?

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              • X xenon
                11 Nov 2020, 00:02

                @Axtremus as someone who is involved in recruiting on a couple of fronts (alumni and for my company) - I can assure you there is little white / male preference these days.

                I'd hate to be one of those shmucks - especially if they don't have a rich daddy like everyone now just assumes they do.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 00:08 last edited by
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                @xenon said in Why not a woman?:

                @Axtremus as someone who is involved in recruiting on a couple of fronts (alumni and for my company) - I can assure you there is little white / male preference these days.

                Not "these days", my post said "there was a time."

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                • A Axtremus
                  11 Nov 2020, 00:05

                  @George-K said in Why not a woman?:

                  @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                  Have you any evidence that suggests Californians oppose the appointment of another woman?

                  No, ...

                  OK, the threat title seems to move increasingly further from available evidence now, does it not?

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                  George K
                  wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 00:09 last edited by George K 11 Nov 2020, 00:09
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                  @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                  OK, the threat (sic) title seems to move increasingly further from available evidence now, does it not?

                  See my comment to @jon about a sense of irony.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • A Axtremus
                    10 Nov 2020, 23:49

                    To answer @George-K's question "why not a woman," probably because they've already got Sen. Diane Feinstein.

                    Why not someone who's gay?
                    Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

                    This is the criterion by which we choose public "servants" apparently.

                    There was a time when only straight white Christian men could be hired/chosen/elected/appointed public servants in the country. I suppose this is karma now that some population now wants "non-White", "not-male" be hired/chosen/elected/appointed. Maybe we will get to a point where no one thinks in tribal terms anymore, maybe not. But as long as competence is still considered, the identity preference wheel can rotate and change over time but on the whole we should come out alright.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 00:41 last edited by
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                    @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                    Why not someone who's gay?
                    Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

                    It's that kind of marginalizing talk that's led to gay suppression for decades, Ax. I'm ashamed and appalled you'd say something this insensitive about a group who obviously needs as much representation in the legislature as possible, now more than ever. I think you should think hard about your own dismissive and marginalizing biases towards gays in America and how you can be part of a solution instead of the problem.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • A Aqua Letifer
                      11 Nov 2020, 00:41

                      @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                      Why not someone who's gay?
                      Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

                      It's that kind of marginalizing talk that's led to gay suppression for decades, Ax. I'm ashamed and appalled you'd say something this insensitive about a group who obviously needs as much representation in the legislature as possible, now more than ever. I think you should think hard about your own dismissive and marginalizing biases towards gays in America and how you can be part of a solution instead of the problem.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 01:01 last edited by
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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Why not a woman?:

                      @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                      Why not someone who's gay?
                      Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

                      It's that kind of marginalizing talk that's led to gay suppression for decades, ...

                      No, the suppression was mostly due to ignorance and intolerance, and in Western Hemisphere this is often rationalized by outmoded religious teachings rooted in the Abrahamic tradition. Luckily this is changing. Societies and more organized religions are becoming more accepting of gays.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 01:08 last edited by
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                        What do y'all have against Jews?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Larry
                          wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 01:27 last edited by
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                          The Left is now a religion. The democrat party is its church. They have chosen a new Pope. All other religions must be mocked and minimized. You WILL bow to their new religion.

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                          • A Axtremus
                            11 Nov 2020, 01:01

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Why not a woman?:

                            @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                            Why not someone who's gay?
                            Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

                            It's that kind of marginalizing talk that's led to gay suppression for decades, ...

                            No, the suppression was mostly due to ignorance and intolerance, and in Western Hemisphere this is often rationalized by outmoded religious teachings rooted in the Abrahamic tradition. Luckily this is changing. Societies and more organized religions are becoming more accepting of gays.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 01:34 last edited by
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                            @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Why not a woman?:

                            @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                            Why not someone who's gay?
                            Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

                            It's that kind of marginalizing talk that's led to gay suppression for decades, ...

                            No, the suppression was mostly due to ignorance and intolerance, and in Western Hemisphere this is often rationalized by outmoded religious teachings rooted in the Abrahamic tradition. Luckily this is changing. Societies and more organized religions are becoming more accepting of gays.

                            Ax, just an hour ago you said there shouldn't be any more gay legislators. You—not "religious teachings," you—said they're not worth representing. More accepting of gays? Start with yourself, Ax. I can't believe what I'm hearing here.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • A Aqua Letifer
                              11 Nov 2020, 01:34

                              @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Why not a woman?:

                              @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                              Why not someone who's gay?
                              Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

                              It's that kind of marginalizing talk that's led to gay suppression for decades, ...

                              No, the suppression was mostly due to ignorance and intolerance, and in Western Hemisphere this is often rationalized by outmoded religious teachings rooted in the Abrahamic tradition. Luckily this is changing. Societies and more organized religions are becoming more accepting of gays.

                              Ax, just an hour ago you said there shouldn't be any more gay legislators. You—not "religious teachings," you—said they're not worth representing. More accepting of gays? Start with yourself, Ax. I can't believe what I'm hearing here.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 01:37 last edited by
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Why not a woman?:

                              @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Why not a woman?:

                              @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                              Why not someone who's gay?
                              Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

                              It's that kind of marginalizing talk that's led to gay suppression for decades, ...

                              No, the suppression was mostly due to ignorance and intolerance, and in Western Hemisphere this is often rationalized by outmoded religious teachings rooted in the Abrahamic tradition. Luckily this is changing. Societies and more organized religions are becoming more accepting of gays.

                              Ax, just an hour ago you said there shouldn't be any more gay legislators. You—not "religious teachings," you—said they're not worth representing. More accepting of gays? Start with yourself, Ax. I can't believe what I'm hearing here.

                              I thought Ax was gay. Or at least was like a garden gate and swung both ways.

                              Did I miss something?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 01:44 last edited by
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                                Ax has no personal convictions. He is a zealot follower of the religion of Leftism, defending its church. All his beliefs are told to him by the church. Those beliefs are only valid in the moment they are spoken, and are subject to change as need dictates. One must not question the teachings of the church. If a teaching contradicts an earlier teaching, the latest version is to be followed.

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                                  Larry
                                  wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 01:47 last edited by
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                                  Ax is a queer???

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                                  • L Larry
                                    11 Nov 2020, 01:47

                                    Ax is a queer???

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 01:48 last edited by
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                                    @Larry said in Why not a woman?:

                                    Ax is a queer???

                                    I dunno, I'm confused.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 01:48 last edited by
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                                      Not nearly as confused as A.... never mind...

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 02:32 last edited by
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                                        @George-K I agree that there should not be quotas.

                                        Same with recent Supreme Court judge. "I will appoint a woman!" Appoint the best person I think.

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          11 Nov 2020, 01:37

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Why not a woman?:

                                          @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Why not a woman?:

                                          @Axtremus said in Why not a woman?:

                                          Why not someone who's gay?
                                          Probably because there aren't that many gay voters.

                                          It's that kind of marginalizing talk that's led to gay suppression for decades, ...

                                          No, the suppression was mostly due to ignorance and intolerance, and in Western Hemisphere this is often rationalized by outmoded religious teachings rooted in the Abrahamic tradition. Luckily this is changing. Societies and more organized religions are becoming more accepting of gays.

                                          Ax, just an hour ago you said there shouldn't be any more gay legislators. You—not "religious teachings," you—said they're not worth representing. More accepting of gays? Start with yourself, Ax. I can't believe what I'm hearing here.

                                          I thought Ax was gay. Or at least was like a garden gate and swung both ways.

                                          Did I miss something?

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 02:46 last edited by
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                                          @Jolly said in Why not a woman?:

                                          I thought Ax was gay. Or at least was like a garden gate and swung both ways.
                                          Did I miss something?

                                          Nah, don't think Ax is. His family's pretty cool even if Ax is cantankerous at times though.

                                          Please love yourself.

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