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  • HoraceH Horace

    Lots of hatred there, among the good points. "Never Trump" has been, and continues to be, a hand waving effort of haters who couldn't pinpoint the source of their hatred if their lives depended on it. What they'll do is to handwave the life of our society on it. That's the best they can do, and they've proven that.

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    Loki
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    @Horace said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

    Lots of hatred there, among the good points. "Never Trump" has been, and continues to be, a hand waving effort of haters who couldn't pinpoint the source of their hatred if their lives depended on it. What they'll do is to handwave the life of our society on it. That's the best they can do, and they've proven that.

    The hatred is ever present but it makes the good points more authentic though, right?

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      It's a good way to describe hatred, yes. Rituals need to be questioned, and reasoned through. The bible makes a lot of good points, reasonable, and I don't think it qualifies as a mindless ritual.

      Education is extremely important.

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        @Horace said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

        Lots of hatred there, among the good points. "Never Trump" has been, and continues to be, a hand waving effort of haters who couldn't pinpoint the source of their hatred if their lives depended on it. What they'll do is to handwave the life of our society on it. That's the best they can do, and they've proven that.

        The hatred is ever present but it makes the good points more authentic though, right?

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        @Loki said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

        @Horace said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

        Lots of hatred there, among the good points. "Never Trump" has been, and continues to be, a hand waving effort of haters who couldn't pinpoint the source of their hatred if their lives depended on it. What they'll do is to handwave the life of our society on it. That's the best they can do, and they've proven that.

        The hatred is ever present but it makes the good points more authentic though, right?

        They came from a person, sure, who is intellectually honest.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Jolly
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          Sullivan missed a huge point...Republicans went to the polls. Dems went to the post office.

          If not for the largest vote by mail ever on the face of the earth, it still took outright thievery to beat Trump. And then, they barely pulled it off.

          28% of the LGBTQ vote. 18% of the black males. Double the vote of black females from 2016. And quite an uptick in the Latino vote.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              There is no evidence that he is a cancer

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                It’s annoying to hear everyone’s thoughts, even when I enjoy their curated content.

                Kind of like being in a stall next to Andrew and hearing him fart.

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                  It’s annoying to hear everyone’s thoughts, even when I enjoy their curated content.

                  Kind of like being in a stall next to Andrew and hearing him fart.

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                  Catseye3
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                  @Loki said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                  It’s annoying to hear everyone’s thoughts, even when I enjoy their curated content.

                  Cheer up, Loki. If Trump's machinations should succeed, all this schrei'ing about election fraud will vanish like morning dew.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    @Loki said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                    It’s annoying to hear everyone’s thoughts, even when I enjoy their curated content.

                    Cheer up, Loki. If Trump's machinations should succeed, all this schrei'ing about election fraud will vanish like morning dew.

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                    @Catseye3 said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                    @Loki said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                    It’s annoying to hear everyone’s thoughts, even when I enjoy their curated content.

                    Cheer up, Loki. If Trump's machinations should succeed, all this schrei'ing about election fraud will vanish like morning dew.

                    Kinda like COVID under Biden?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Catseye3 said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                      @Loki said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                      It’s annoying to hear everyone’s thoughts, even when I enjoy their curated content.

                      Cheer up, Loki. If Trump's machinations should succeed, all this schrei'ing about election fraud will vanish like morning dew.

                      Kinda like COVID under Biden?

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                      xenon
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                      #13

                      @Jolly Call it lucky timing or whatever - but the Biden Presidency timing just lines up nicely with coming out of COVID.

                      This nasty wave will likely be on the decline by then, the vaccine is expected to be widely available within 2-3 months of the beginning of his term.

                      Fair or unfair, the simple narrative will become -> Biden became President and COVID is improving.

                      And yes - journalists will be overly eager to connect this to Biden (who probably won't have to do too much on this front) and make a contrast against Trump.

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                        @Jolly Call it lucky timing or whatever - but the Biden Presidency timing just lines up nicely with coming out of COVID.

                        This nasty wave will likely be on the decline by then, the vaccine is expected to be widely available within 2-3 months of the beginning of his term.

                        Fair or unfair, the simple narrative will become -> Biden became President and COVID is improving.

                        And yes - journalists will be overly eager to connect this to Biden (who probably won't have to do too much on this front) and make a contrast against Trump.

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                        @xenon said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                        @Jolly Call it lucky timing or whatever - but the Biden Presidency timing just lines up nicely with coming out of COVID.

                        This nasty wave will likely be on the decline by then, the vaccine is expected to be widely available within 2-3 months of the beginning of his term.

                        Fair or unfair, the simple narrative will become -> Biden became President and COVID is improving.

                        And yes - journalists will be overly eager to connect this to Biden (who probably won't have to do too much on this front) and make a contrast against Trump.

                        Unless the vaccine rolls out on Trump's watch, even in a limited quantity.

                        Now...how is Biden going to keep the economy afloat. Most of y'all work from home, but in many cities, retail is a ghost town.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          @xenon said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                          @Jolly Call it lucky timing or whatever - but the Biden Presidency timing just lines up nicely with coming out of COVID.

                          This nasty wave will likely be on the decline by then, the vaccine is expected to be widely available within 2-3 months of the beginning of his term.

                          Fair or unfair, the simple narrative will become -> Biden became President and COVID is improving.

                          And yes - journalists will be overly eager to connect this to Biden (who probably won't have to do too much on this front) and make a contrast against Trump.

                          Unless the vaccine rolls out on Trump's watch, even in a limited quantity.

                          Now...how is Biden going to keep the economy afloat. Most of y'all work from home, but in many cities, retail is a ghost town.

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                          @Jolly said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                          @xenon said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                          @Jolly Call it lucky timing or whatever - but the Biden Presidency timing just lines up nicely with coming out of COVID.

                          This nasty wave will likely be on the decline by then, the vaccine is expected to be widely available within 2-3 months of the beginning of his term.

                          Fair or unfair, the simple narrative will become -> Biden became President and COVID is improving.

                          And yes - journalists will be overly eager to connect this to Biden (who probably won't have to do too much on this front) and make a contrast against Trump.

                          Unless the vaccine rolls out on Trump's watch, even in a limited quantity.

                          Now...how is Biden going to keep the economy afloat. Most of y'all work from home, but in many cities, retail is a ghost town.

                          Biden most certainly will not have fixed things the way it is playing out. It would have been great for him to have a quick win but he will face down an agenda that is at serious odds with the mood of the country and a GOP senate.

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                            @Jolly said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                            @xenon said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                            @Jolly Call it lucky timing or whatever - but the Biden Presidency timing just lines up nicely with coming out of COVID.

                            This nasty wave will likely be on the decline by then, the vaccine is expected to be widely available within 2-3 months of the beginning of his term.

                            Fair or unfair, the simple narrative will become -> Biden became President and COVID is improving.

                            And yes - journalists will be overly eager to connect this to Biden (who probably won't have to do too much on this front) and make a contrast against Trump.

                            Unless the vaccine rolls out on Trump's watch, even in a limited quantity.

                            Now...how is Biden going to keep the economy afloat. Most of y'all work from home, but in many cities, retail is a ghost town.

                            Biden most certainly will not have fixed things the way it is playing out. It would have been great for him to have a quick win but he will face down an agenda that is at serious odds with the mood of the country and a GOP senate.

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                            @Loki I'm saying he could probably do nothing and things will look pretty decent by April.

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                              @Loki I'm saying he could probably do nothing and things will look pretty decent by April.

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                              @xenon said in Andrew Sullivan is on point:

                              @Loki I'm saying he could probably do nothing and things will look pretty decent by April.

                              It'll look better. Flu season will be over.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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