Trump lawsuits
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@Jolly said in Trump lawsuits:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump lawsuits:
@Jolly said in Trump lawsuits:
NPR is a biased news source.
Jolly, I'm shocked and disappointed that you would shoot the messenger in this way.
I didn't shoot them. They shot themselves a long time ago.
If you wish, go back and look...I've said the same thing for twenty years, that NPR is biased ( I've often referred to NPR as National Communistic Radio). I think their funding should be cut to zero and they should fend for themselves.
When I laughed at your news sources, that was your response, and the places you link to ain't unbiased.
I actually agree with you over NPR bias. I find their (frequently unconscious) bias really aggravating. Their discussion stuff that's on in the middle day is really bad, but the regular news coverage is often better than most places. It's not like there's a lot of great radio to listen to. They also suffer from what I think Aqua calls the Wimbledon complex.
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GOP lawyer Ben Ginsberg calls BS on Trump’s baseless election claims. This is the lawyer who handled GW Bush’s election lawsuit concerning the Florida recount.
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Trump lawyers suffer embarrassing rebukes from judges over voter fraud claims
The article went over a few court cases brought by the Trump campaign and conclude with the following:
“The common thread running through all of these is that Trump’s lawyers are regularly offering a significantly more watered-down version of Trump’s claims about rampant voter fraud — because they, unlike Trump, have to substantiate their claims. And as these exchanges show, it’s a rather thankless task that can quickly land them on a judge’s bad side.”
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New wave, original composition...
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@Axtremus I’ve posted screenshots of specific examples.
That was my point made separately to Larry and Jolly. The last place you’d go to get informed on the actual state of the evidence is a partisan news source with an outrage-for-clicks business model.
The Trump filings are a good place to start because they are obviously aware of all the wild accusations but need to apply at least a semblance of a filter to them so as not to get humiliated or even sanctioned in court.
DON’T let them eat cake.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump lawsuits:
@Axtremus I’ve posted screenshots of specific examples.
That was my point made separately to Larry and Jolly. The last place you’d go to get informed on the actual state of the evidence is a partisan news source with an outrage-for-clicks business model.
The Trump filings are a good place to start because they are obviously aware of all the wild accusations but need to apply at least a semblance of a filter to them so as not to get humiliated or even sanctioned in court.
Says the guy who gets his information from the NYT and the Washington post..... as he talk to another person who get his information from......... the NYT and the Washington Post.....
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@Larry I have an 11 year kid so I’m fully aware of the power of the phrase “I know you are but what am I”, but I gotta say it doesn’t apply in this case.
Note I didn’t suggest going to the times or post for a more realistic view of the actual evidence. I suggested looking at the Trump campaign’s own court filings. Because they are motivated to list as much evidence as they possibly can, but are penalized if it is known to be bullshit.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump lawsuits:
@Larry I have an 11 year kid so I’m fully aware of the power of the phrase “I know you are but what am I”, but I gotta say it doesn’t apply in this case.
Note I didn’t suggest going to the times or post for a more realistic view of the actual evidence. I suggested looking at the Trump campaign’s own court filings. Because they are motivated to list as much evidence as they possibly can, but are penalized if it is known to be bullshit.
Couple of examples:
"During a Pennsylvania court hearing this week on one of the many election lawsuits brought by President Donald Trump, a judge asked a campaign lawyer whether he had found any signs of fraud from among the 592 ballots challenged.The answer was no."
Another
"As the campaign tried to stop the vote count in Philadelphia last week, a judge tried to get to the bottom of a Republican complaint over observer access in the room where election workers were processing mail-in ballots.I am asking you as a member of the bar of this court, are people representing the Donald J. Trump for president (campaign) … in that room?” U.S. District Judge Paul S. Diamond asked.
There’s a nonzero number of people in the room,” campaign lawyer Jerome Marcus replied."
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This is a bit dated and has probably changed over the time, but thought this was interesting.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump lawsuits:
@Larry I have an 11 year kid so I’m fully aware of the power of the phrase “I know you are but what am I”, but I gotta say it doesn’t apply in this case.
Note I didn’t suggest going to the times or post for a more realistic view of the actual evidence. I suggested looking at the Trump campaign’s own court filings. Because they are motivated to list as much evidence as they possibly can, but are penalized if it is known to be bullshit.
You leftwingers don't even understand why it's important that this be done, regardless of whether it changes the winner or not. Damn.. it's like trying to talk to a bunch of 3 year olds.
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Peddling known or easily debunked falsehoods about the election, but only ones with a strong political bias towards Trump, is something that is ‘important to be done’?
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Hey @Larry, maybe Trump can really use your help, and YOU CAN HELP!
Just be sure to understand the fine prints.
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Earlier they only had the caveat about 50% being used to pay down campaign debt. Now it's going all kinds of places.
This is just crazy.
But the fine print indicates much of the money donated to support that effort since Election Day has instead paid down campaign debt, replenished the Republican National Committee and, more recently, helped get Save America, a new political action committee Trump founded, off the ground.
The unusual way the Trump campaign is divvying up the contributions has drawn scrutiny from election watchdogs, who say Trump and his family are poised to financially benefit from the arrangement.
“This is a slush fund. That’s the bottom line,” said Paul S. Ryan, a longtime campaign finance attorney with the good government group Common Cause. “Trump may just continue to string out this meritless litigation in order to fleece his own supporters of their money and use it in the coming years to pad his own lifestyle while teasing a 2024 candidacy.”
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You talking about the PA ruling?
It’s really narrow so it won’t affect anything.
It’s a good ruling but the remedy is bad and should be overturned. I hope the state appeals even though it won’t change the outcome.
