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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    At any rate, he pulled a large number of votes for an independent, but had 0 impact on the actual election itself. I wouldn’t call that significant.

    The Brad

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    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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      Well I was certainly pulling for Jorgensen, as I indicated last week.

      I was only joking

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        Pulling your johnson doesn’t count.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          At any rate, he pulled a large number of votes for an independent, but had 0 impact on the actual election itself. I wouldn’t call that significant.

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          #14

          @LuFins-Dad said in 1932:

          At any rate, he pulled a large number of votes for an independent, but had 0 impact on the actual election itself. I wouldn’t call that significant.

          Ok, that's fair. Let me reframe it then.

          Only three men in the last century have dethroned a sitting president without significant 3rd party help:

          Screen Shot 2020-11-06 at 10.39.46 AM.png

          You like that better? 😉

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            But Biden had significant 3rd party help. Without the JJo, Trump wins several of those states.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              But Biden had significant 3rd party help. Without the JJo, Trump wins several of those states.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @LuFins-Dad said in 1932:

              But Biden had significant 3rd party help. Without the JJo, Trump wins several of those states.

              He had quite a bit of 2nd party help, too. Without Donald Trump, you think Biden could have won this?

              I was only joking

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                #17

                @LuFins-Dad That would be a very hard case to make.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @LuFins-Dad said in 1932:

                  But Biden had significant 3rd party help. Without the JJo, Trump wins several of those states.

                  He had quite a bit of 2nd party help, too. Without Donald Trump, you think Biden could have won this?

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in 1932:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in 1932:

                  But Biden had significant 3rd party help. Without the JJo, Trump wins several of those states.

                  He had quite a bit of 2nd party help, too. Without Donald Trump, you think Biden could have won this?

                  not a chance

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @LuFins-Dad That would be a very hard case to make.

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                    @jon-nyc said in 1932:

                    @LuFins-Dad That would be a very hard case to make.

                    Wisconsin, Georgia, AZ, and likely PA will be within her vote totals, and I would argue that she affected the outcome in those states more than Perot did in 1992. Half of Perot’s supporters were Democrats despite his policies being more closely aligned to the Republicans so the votes he took would have been split evenly. Very few of Jorgensen’s supporters would have gone to Biden, maybe a few, and some would have just not voted, but the majority would have broken in Donald’s direction. At the very least, everybody we pull be shitting bricks during the recounts...

                    The Brad

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                      @LuFins-Dad See my calcs in the other thread.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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