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wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 15:15 last edited by
Anderson was a Republiican that pulled votes from Reagan. He had no significant impact on the election Except for possibly making Reagan’s landslide a little smaller.
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wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 15:34 last edited by
Oddly he did well among intellectual and student types too.
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wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 15:39 last edited by
I voted for Anderson in 80, mostly because I supported the idea of an independent candidacy.
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wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 15:45 last edited by
I remember when candidates wouldn’t even put their party logo on their re-election efforts. So the parties fixed that existential threat and combined with how social media accelerated us vs them it is no surprise there is no oxygen for a third party.
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wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 16:31 last edited by
At any rate, he pulled a large number of votes for an independent, but had 0 impact on the actual election itself. I wouldn’t call that significant.
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wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 16:55 last edited by
Well I was certainly pulling for Jorgensen, as I indicated last week.
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wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 18:12 last edited by
Pulling your johnson doesn’t count.
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At any rate, he pulled a large number of votes for an independent, but had 0 impact on the actual election itself. I wouldn’t call that significant.
wrote on 6 Nov 2020, 15:40 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Jun 2020, 15:41@LuFins-Dad said in 1932:
At any rate, he pulled a large number of votes for an independent, but had 0 impact on the actual election itself. I wouldn’t call that significant.
Ok, that's fair. Let me reframe it then.
Only three men in the last century have dethroned a sitting president without significant 3rd party help:
You like that better?
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wrote on 6 Nov 2020, 16:50 last edited by
But Biden had significant 3rd party help. Without the JJo, Trump wins several of those states.
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But Biden had significant 3rd party help. Without the JJo, Trump wins several of those states.
wrote on 6 Nov 2020, 16:54 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in 1932:
But Biden had significant 3rd party help. Without the JJo, Trump wins several of those states.
He had quite a bit of 2nd party help, too. Without Donald Trump, you think Biden could have won this?
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wrote on 6 Nov 2020, 16:58 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Jun 2020, 16:59
@LuFins-Dad That would be a very hard case to make.
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@LuFins-Dad said in 1932:
But Biden had significant 3rd party help. Without the JJo, Trump wins several of those states.
He had quite a bit of 2nd party help, too. Without Donald Trump, you think Biden could have won this?
wrote on 6 Nov 2020, 17:29 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in 1932:
@LuFins-Dad said in 1932:
But Biden had significant 3rd party help. Without the JJo, Trump wins several of those states.
He had quite a bit of 2nd party help, too. Without Donald Trump, you think Biden could have won this?
not a chance
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@LuFins-Dad That would be a very hard case to make.
wrote on 6 Nov 2020, 18:14 last edited by@LuFins-Dad That would be a very hard case to make.
Wisconsin, Georgia, AZ, and likely PA will be within her vote totals, and I would argue that she affected the outcome in those states more than Perot did in 1992. Half of Perot’s supporters were Democrats despite his policies being more closely aligned to the Republicans so the votes he took would have been split evenly. Very few of Jorgensen’s supporters would have gone to Biden, maybe a few, and some would have just not voted, but the majority would have broken in Donald’s direction. At the very least, everybody we pull be shitting bricks during the recounts...
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wrote on 6 Nov 2020, 21:03 last edited by
@LuFins-Dad See my calcs in the other thread.