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  • J Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 21:43 last edited by
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    So far Trump supporters seem sad but resigned.

    I don’t think that will last. Hannity and Tucker will froth them up tonight and Rush will take his shift in the morning.

    Probably we’ll see some take to the streets. Especially around poll counting locations.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 21:47 last edited by
      #2

      I would love to be wrong about this.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • J jon-nyc
        4 Nov 2020, 21:47

        I would love to be wrong about this.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:03 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Post-election predictions:

        I would love to be wrong about this.

        I am right now reading an article in The Atlantic that discusses brick-by-brick the scenario if Trump refuses to concede.

        Excerpt:
        "If we are lucky, this fraught and dysfunctional election cycle will reach a conventional stopping point in time to meet crucial deadlines in December and January. The contest will be decided with sufficient authority that the losing candidate will be forced to yield. Collectively we will have made our choice—a messy one, no doubt, but clear enough to arm the president-elect with a mandate to govern.

        "As a nation, we have never failed to clear that bar. But in this election year of plague and recession and catastrophized politics, the mechanisms of decision are at meaningful risk of breaking down."

        It goes on with a tutorial that is pretty unsettling, IMO.

        https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • J jon-nyc
          4 Nov 2020, 21:43

          So far Trump supporters seem sad but resigned.

          I don’t think that will last. Hannity and Tucker will froth them up tonight and Rush will take his shift in the morning.

          Probably we’ll see some take to the streets. Especially around poll counting locations.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:04 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc

          Sad but resigned? Arizona is back in play and we will see what happens in PA. There also appear to be some major inconsistencies with Wisconsin. This isn't over.

          Plus, at any rate, it looks like R's will retain control of the Senate and will make some nice gains in the House (putting them within striking distance for 2022) that along with the 15-20 centrist Democrats in the House should be enough to block any obnoxiously over the top legislation from the left. It looks like the Supreme Court is safe at 9 members for now with a modest advantage for conservatives... Even if Arizona and PA don't go for Trump, it's a good week for the middle and conservatives...

          The Brad

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:05 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Apr 2020, 22:06
            #5

            You say that as a true conservative who reluctantly supports Trump.

            Those boys with the flags on their trucks are quite different from you.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Mik
              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:08 last edited by
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              There won’t be any violence if Trump loses. Only if he wins.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Copper
                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:09 last edited by Copper 11 Apr 2020, 22:10
                #7

                The republicans will bury Mr. Trump's memory as fast as they can.

                They'll dump the truck flag guys in a heartbeat.

                Somebody clever could come along and pick up the truck flag guys.

                I'd probably be happy to vote for him or her. It could be a republican or another non-traditional politician.

                The swamp is not yet entirely drained.

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                • J jon-nyc
                  4 Nov 2020, 22:05

                  You say that as a true conservative who reluctantly supports Trump.

                  Those boys with the flags on their trucks are quite different from you.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:16 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Post-election predictions:

                  You say that as a true conservative who reluctantly supports Trump.

                  Those boys with the flags on their trucks are quite different from you.

                  Let's see how many city sections are cordoned off as lawless zones where unsolved homicides OH WAIT.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • C Copper
                    4 Nov 2020, 22:09

                    The republicans will bury Mr. Trump's memory as fast as they can.

                    They'll dump the truck flag guys in a heartbeat.

                    Somebody clever could come along and pick up the truck flag guys.

                    I'd probably be happy to vote for him or her. It could be a republican or another non-traditional politician.

                    The swamp is not yet entirely drained.

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                    kluurs
                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:18 last edited by
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                    @Copper said in Post-election predictions:

                    The republicans will bury Mr. Trump's memory as fast as they can.

                    They'll dump the truck flag guys in a heartbeat.

                    Somebody clever could come along and pick up the truck flag guys.

                    I'd probably be happy to vote for him or her. It could be a republican or another non-traditional politician.

                    The swamp is not yet entirely drained.

                    I'm not so sure. Even more than the Fox Network, I think Trump could be here to stay - as a force in media - a media he can control, completely. I don't think the Republicans could or would ignore him.

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                    • M Mik
                      4 Nov 2020, 22:08

                      There won’t be any violence if Trump loses. Only if he wins.

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                      kluurs
                      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:20 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in Post-election predictions:

                      There won’t be any violence if Trump loses. Only if he wins.

                      How so? Trump has has the militias, the bikers, etc. and has on occasion suggested that the Second Amendment types take action on his behalf. You think Biden or Pelosi would ask people to take up arms?

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                      • K kluurs
                        4 Nov 2020, 22:20

                        @Mik said in Post-election predictions:

                        There won’t be any violence if Trump loses. Only if he wins.

                        How so? Trump has has the militias, the bikers, etc. and has on occasion suggested that the Second Amendment types take action on his behalf. You think Biden or Pelosi would ask people to take up arms?

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                        George K
                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:20 last edited by
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                        @kluurs said in Post-election predictions:

                        You think Biden or Pelosi would ask people to take up arms?

                        "Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?"

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:26 last edited by
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                          I haven't seen either Biden, Obama or Pelosi use the same rabble rousing language in the way that Trump has done.

                          The fact that the antifa assholes have caused so much damage isn't their doing.

                          I was only joking

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            4 Nov 2020, 21:43

                            So far Trump supporters seem sad but resigned.

                            I don’t think that will last. Hannity and Tucker will froth them up tonight and Rush will take his shift in the morning.

                            Probably we’ll see some take to the streets. Especially around poll counting locations.

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                            Loki
                            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:49 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in Post-election predictions:

                            So far Trump supporters seem sad but resigned.

                            I don’t think that will last. Hannity and Tucker will froth them up tonight and Rush will take his shift in the morning.

                            Probably we’ll see some take to the streets. Especially around poll counting locations.

                            I’m surprised you believe this. I believe the opposite.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:51 last edited by
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                              Yeah let's find out. Maybe one of us will say as little as you, Mark, Ax, well, all of WTF said about the Seattle takeover.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 22:55 last edited by
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                                let's also keep in mind that Trump was publicly undermined by the left through the NYT. The adults in the room. They were literally disobeying him, publically, because they were superior. Ok then.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                                  4 Nov 2020, 22:26

                                  I haven't seen either Biden, Obama or Pelosi use the same rabble rousing language in the way that Trump has done.

                                  The fact that the antifa assholes have caused so much damage isn't their doing.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 23:02 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Post-election predictions:

                                  I haven't seen either Biden, Obama or Pelosi use the same rabble rousing language in the way that Trump has done.

                                  The fact that the antifa assholes have caused so much damage isn't their doing.

                                  Right, all that damage is the result of individual, tribless folk.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace
                                    4 Nov 2020, 22:55

                                    let's also keep in mind that Trump was publicly undermined by the left through the NYT. The adults in the room. They were literally disobeying him, publically, because they were superior. Ok then.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 23:18 last edited by
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                                    @Horace said in Post-election predictions:

                                    let's also keep in mind that Trump was publicly undermined by the left through the NYT. The adults in the room. They were literally disobeying him, publically, because they were superior. Ok then.

                                    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/cnn-is-just-the-latest-news-outlet

                                    While they are superb at tirelessly complaining about their mistreatment, they are very poor at looking in the mirror and asking whether they bear any of the blame for the drop in faith and credibility that the public is willing to vest in them.

                                    Perhaps they avoid asking that question because the answer is so self-evident. If you lie to the public constantly, if you demonstrate to them that you are willing to tolerate, employ and even reward liars to deliver the news, then it is not only natural that the public will lose all faith in your credibility. It is rational, and very well-deserved..

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      4 Nov 2020, 21:43

                                      So far Trump supporters seem sad but resigned.

                                      I don’t think that will last. Hannity and Tucker will froth them up tonight and Rush will take his shift in the morning.

                                      Probably we’ll see some take to the streets. Especially around poll counting locations.

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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 23:31 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Post-election predictions:

                                      So far Trump supporters seem sad but resigned.

                                      I don’t think that will last. Hannity and Tucker will froth them up tonight and Rush will take his shift in the morning.

                                      Probably we’ll see some take to the streets. Especially around poll counting locations.

                                      It wasn't republicans gathered outside the White House last night planning to sack the town if Trump won. It was democrats.

                                      Republicans will do what they always dob- shrug it off and go back to work.

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                                      • K kluurs
                                        4 Nov 2020, 22:18

                                        @Copper said in Post-election predictions:

                                        The republicans will bury Mr. Trump's memory as fast as they can.

                                        They'll dump the truck flag guys in a heartbeat.

                                        Somebody clever could come along and pick up the truck flag guys.

                                        I'd probably be happy to vote for him or her. It could be a republican or another non-traditional politician.

                                        The swamp is not yet entirely drained.

                                        I'm not so sure. Even more than the Fox Network, I think Trump could be here to stay - as a force in media - a media he can control, completely. I don't think the Republicans could or would ignore him.

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 23:52 last edited by
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                                        @kluurs said in Post-election predictions:

                                        I think Trump could be here to stay - as a force in media - a media he can control, completely.

                                        If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

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                                        • C Copper
                                          4 Nov 2020, 23:52

                                          @kluurs said in Post-election predictions:

                                          I think Trump could be here to stay - as a force in media - a media he can control, completely.

                                          If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

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                                          kluurs
                                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 23:53 last edited by
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                                          @Copper said in Post-election predictions:

                                          If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

                                          Yup, he lives his life as a Marvel action hero.

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