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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:40 last edited by
    #48

    Trafalgar’s numbers are looking on point across the board.

    The Brad

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:46 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Apr 2020, 03:46
      #49

      What are they?

      They did FL well.

      They only have a 75% accuracy rate in calling elections, which is why Nate rates them a C- (IIRC).

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • J jon-nyc
        4 Nov 2020, 03:09

        I'm calling it for Trump.

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        kluurs
        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:52 last edited by
        #50

        @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

        I'm calling it for Trump.

        Game over.

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        • J jon-nyc
          4 Nov 2020, 03:46

          What are they?

          They did FL well.

          They only have a 75% accuracy rate in calling elections, which is why Nate rates them a C- (IIRC).

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          Jolly
          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:54 last edited by
          #51

          @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

          What are they?

          They did FL well.

          They only have a 75% accuracy rate in calling elections, which is why Nate rates them a C- (IIRC).

          If Trump pulls this out, a lot of pollsters, including Nate, are going to look like idiots.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:55 last edited by
            #52

            Nate isn't a pollster. He just builds models based on polls.

            But people won't make that distinction and think he's an idiot anyway.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:56 last edited by
              #53

              But my question stands -

              Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:59 last edited by
                #54

                Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...

                The Brad

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:08 last edited by
                  #55

                  I have found that I have been more interested in the House and Senate races. So far the GOP is doing really well it looks like. Collins, McConnell and Graham are all winners, and those were seats the Dems spent a LOT of money on. In House races they poured money in my district and the one next to it and are still losing.

                  How are things going in your states' house/senate races?

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    4 Nov 2020, 03:56

                    But my question stands -

                    Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:11 last edited by Loki 11 Apr 2020, 04:11
                    #56

                    @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                    But my question stands -

                    Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

                    GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      4 Nov 2020, 03:59

                      Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:14 last edited by
                      #57

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                      Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...

                      What are their numbers? Other than FL.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • L Loki
                        4 Nov 2020, 04:11

                        @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                        But my question stands -

                        Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

                        GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:14 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Apr 2020, 04:23
                        #58

                        @Loki said in Calling the States:

                        @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                        But my question stands -

                        Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

                        GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

                        Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.

                        Also, see my reply to Jolly.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:24 last edited by
                          #59

                          Looks like Fox is disabling some of their odd meters.

                          Major fail overall for them.

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:25 last edited by
                            #60

                            Fox just called AZ for Biden. that's interesting

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:26 last edited by
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                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                4 Nov 2020, 04:14

                                @Loki said in Calling the States:

                                @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                But my question stands -

                                Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

                                GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

                                Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.

                                Also, see my reply to Jolly.

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:28 last edited by
                                #62

                                I know Nate isn’t a pollster but he has a loud voice. I thought he understood and am a fan for the moment.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:29 last edited by
                                  #63

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                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:35 last edited by
                                    #64

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • J Jolly
                                      4 Nov 2020, 03:10

                                      @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                      I'm calling it for Trump.

                                      I think you're too early.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:38 last edited by
                                      #65

                                      @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                      I'm calling it for Trump.

                                      I think you're too early.

                                      You're right. They've always said election night would look good for Trump then mail in ballots would push things the other way.

                                      We won't really know what happened for a day or two at least. It could come down to those little orphan districts in NE and ME.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:42 last edited by
                                        #66

                                        Scenario:

                                        Trump gets PA, OH. Biden gets WI MI. Then Biden only needs one of the tossup NE/ME house districts to get to 270.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:43 last edited by
                                          #67

                                          Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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