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Calling the States

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #377

    He may well not have won it. It's very close and there are still military/foreign service votes to count. Plus an automatic recount.

    You were warned.

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    • LarryL Offline
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      Larry
      wrote on last edited by
      #378

      Just as convincing as telling me that a senile fool sat in his basement the entire campaign season and hid won the election honest.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
        #379

        @Larry said in Calling the States:

        Just as convincing as telling me that a senile fool sat in his basement the entire campaign season and hid won the election honest.

        The argument from personal incredulity is always convincing.

        You were warned.

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        • LarryL Larry

          Just as convincing as telling me that a senile fool sat in his basement the entire campaign season and hid won the election honest.

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          Larry
          wrote on last edited by
          #380

          @Larry said in Calling the States:

          Just as convincing as telling me that a senile fool sat in his basement the entire campaign season and hid won the election honest.

          Just as convincing as telling me a senile fool sat in his basement the entire campaign season and hid won the election honest.

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          • LarryL Offline
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            Larry
            wrote on last edited by
            #381

            TG says ( as does Jon) that there is no evidence of voter fraud....

            ORLY????????

            It was discovered today that a computer glitch in the software being used in Michigan was converting Trump votes into Biden votes. 6,000 votes were changed from Trump to Biden by the software. That was just in one precinct. There are 47 precincts in Michigan using the same software. Now it turns out that as many as 30 states are using this software.

            In Michigan alone, over 100 poll workers have signed under Federal penalty of perjury affidavits spelling out voter fraud they have personally witnessed.

            In another state a whistleblower has stepped forward to blow the whistle on democrat election officials ordering all ballots that missed the 11/3 deadline to change the date to November 3.

            Every single state still counting votes have poll workers coming forward telling of having witnessed illegal acts being done.

            So yes, there's a ton of evidence of voter fraud.

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            • bachophileB Offline
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              bachophile
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              #382

              Great. Send it all to the courts. Let the sun shine on it all.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                Interesting tweet
                Native tribal lands vs voting in Arizona

                Native vote is clearly Biden

                Gibmedats.

                KlausK Offline
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                Klaus
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                #383

                @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                Gibmedats

                ?

                I assume you mean that they vote for Biden in the hope of getting free stuff? ("give me that")?

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                  Gibmedats

                  ?

                  I assume you mean that they vote for Biden in the hope of getting free stuff? ("give me that")?

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #384

                  @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                  @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                  Gibmedats

                  ?

                  I assume you mean that they vote for Biden in the hope of getting free stuff? ("give me that")?

                  For EASL, you do well...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #385

                    Nevada was called for Killer President Elect Biden.

                    You were warned.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #386

                      Killed? No, I don't think anybody will kill Biden. Unless it's Harris, or course.

                      I think it much more likely he'll succumb on his own. Wandering out in traffic, perhaps...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Killed? No, I don't think anybody will kill Biden. Unless it's Harris, or course.

                        I think it much more likely he'll succumb on his own. Wandering out in traffic, perhaps...

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                        Axtremus
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                        #387

                        @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                        I think it much more likely he'll succumb on his own. Wandering out in traffic, perhaps...

                        Not to worry. The Secret Service will clear traffic ahead of time wherever he goes.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                          I think it much more likely he'll succumb on his own. Wandering out in traffic, perhaps...

                          Not to worry. The Secret Service will clear traffic ahead of time wherever he goes.

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                          taiwan_girl
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                          #388

                          @Axtremus said in Calling the States:

                          @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                          I think it much more likely he'll succumb on his own. Wandering out in traffic, perhaps...

                          Not to worry. The Secret Service will clear traffic ahead of time wherever he goes.

                          I may have said this before, but I re member reading a story about the old President Bush. And they were asking him what he missed most about being president.

                          He replied that it wasn’t Air Force One, Because if you have enough money, you could have a fancy plane. He said that it wasn’t living in the White House, because again, if you have enough money, you can have a fancy house.

                          He said that the thing he missed most, was that he never had to wait in traffic.

                          As president, traffic was always cleared for him, and there was never any any chance he would be stuck in traffic!

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            Don't worry, Biden won't notice the traffic or lack of it.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Don't worry, Biden won't notice the traffic or lack of it.

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                              Axtremus
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                              @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                              Don't worry, Biden won't notice the traffic or lack of it.

                              That, to the Secret Service, would be a job well done.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #391

                                Decision Desk HQ calls AZ for Biden.

                                You were warned.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #392

                                  Interesting

                                  You were warned.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #393

                                    @jon-nyc , what do you think of these numbers?

                                    https://dailycaller.com/2020/11/11/third-parties-spoil-election-states-races-most-affected/

                                    There’s no indication Jorgensen voters would have supported Trump had she not been on the ballot. But the 2020 election may have gone to Trump had even a fraction showed up and voted for the president in a few swing states.

                                    Biden leads Trump by 12,813 votes in Arizona as of Wednesday, according to the Times. While the outcome hasn’t yet been declared by most media organizations, if Trump received roughly 25% of Jorgensen’s 50,636 votes, he would be ahead.

                                    In Georgia, another uncalled state, Trump is down by 14,093 votes as of Wednesday, according to The Times. If 23% of Jorgensen’s 62,053 supporters voted for the president, he would be leading Biden.

                                    And Trump would be ahead of Biden in Pennsylvania, which was called Saturday morning, had he received about 65% of Jorgensen’s 77,942 votes in the state. Biden leads Trump in Pennsylvania by 50,213 as of Wednesday, according to The Times.

                                    Similarly, if Trump would have won 54% of Jorgensen’s 38,271 in Wisconsin, he would be ahead, according to the Times. Biden leads in Wisconsin by 20,539 as of Wednesday.

                                    Both Brian Carroll, of the American Solidarity Party, and Don Blankenship, of the Constitution Party, received more than 5,000 votes in Wisconsin, according to The Times. Nearly 8,000 people voted for write-ins.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                      #394

                                      Well, it's true as far as it goes but it's a different point that LD and I were discussing.

                                      This is imagining JJ still in the race, but some of her supporters going to Trump. What LD and I were discussing was what might have happened if there had been no third party candidate. In that case you assume some of those votes are going to break for Biden too. Therefore the number of JJ voters Trump needs is larger than just the initial gap.

                                      Let's just play with their first example:

                                      Biden leads Trump by 12,813 votes in Arizona as of Wednesday, according to the Times. While the outcome hasn’t yet been declared by most media organizations, if Trump received roughly 25% of Jorgensen’s 50,636 votes, he would be ahead.

                                      Ok. Imagine JJ isn't in the race and ALL of those voters either go for Biden or Trump.

                                      Trump needs 31,725 of the 50,636 or 63%. Why the difference? Because Trump needs to cover the existing 12k gap PLUS an additional vote for every one Biden gets. (note that Trump getting 31,725 in this example means Biden gets the other 18,911. Those numbers are 12,814 apart - just enough for Trump to cover the original gap with one to spare).

                                      Note also that this assumes ALL the votes she got go instead to either Trump or Biden. If you make the more realistic assumption that some stay home or write in a name, then the percentage Trump needs of the reminder increases further.

                                      You were warned.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #395

                                        Actually I gave them a bit too much credit. Based on the first sentence, they are in fact opining about what would happen if JJ was off the ballot.

                                        They just aren't good at thinking it through. Journos can't really math.

                                        You were warned.

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                                          @George-K said in Calling the States:

                                          the 2020 election may have gone to Trump had even a fraction showed up and voted for the president in a few swing states.

                                          If we had ham we could have ham and eggs for breakfast, if we had any eggs.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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