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    George K
    wrote on 30 Oct 2020, 22:21 last edited by
    #1

    Apologies if posted earlier.

    But, Jared F'ing Harris!

    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Klaus
      wrote on 1 Nov 2020, 01:31 last edited by Klaus 11 Jan 2020, 01:34
      #2

      Wait, that's Anderson Dawes at 1:03! What's that beltalowda doing there?

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      • K Klaus
        1 Nov 2020, 01:31

        Wait, that's Anderson Dawes at 1:03! What's that beltalowda doing there?

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        George K
        wrote on 1 Nov 2020, 01:37 last edited by
        #3

        @Klaus said in Foundation:

        What's that beltalowda doing there?

        He escaped from The Terror of Chernobyl.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 28 Jun 2021, 20:10 last edited by
          #4

          Premiers September 24

          Link to video

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 28 Jun 2021, 20:29 last edited by
            #5

            Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

            I was only joking

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              28 Jun 2021, 20:29

              Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

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              George K
              wrote on 28 Jun 2021, 20:30 last edited by
              #6

              @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

              Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

              I think you can get a free 6-month trial.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                28 Jun 2021, 20:30

                @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

                I think you can get a free 6-month trial.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 28 Jun 2021, 20:49 last edited by
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                @george-k said in Foundation:

                @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

                I think you can get a free 6-month trial.

                I'll need to time that carefully

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  28 Jun 2021, 20:49

                  @george-k said in Foundation:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                  Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

                  I think you can get a free 6-month trial.

                  I'll need to time that carefully

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                  George K
                  wrote on 28 Jun 2021, 20:57 last edited by
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                  @doctor-phibes I was wrong.

                  It's only 7 day free trial. But if you get a Mac purchase a qualifying Apple device, you get one year - free.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 20:22 last edited by
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                    September 24th.

                    Link to video

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 21:21 last edited by
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                      That's a must, although I am skeptical they can do the story justice. Gosh, it's been over 40 years since I read the trilogy and I still remember it.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
                        wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 21:24 last edited by
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                        I re-read it about 5 years ago.

                        This makes me want to revisit.

                        The interesting question is this: Should I read in order of publication, or in order of the story?

                        Having read through Alastair Reynolds' "Revelation Space" universe this summer in order of story, I think that might be a better option.

                        Chronological:

Prelude to Foundation (1988)
                        Forward the Foundation (1993)
                        Foundation (1951)
                        Foundation and Empire (1952)
                        Second Foundation (1953)
                        Foundation's Edge (1982)
                        Foundation and Earth (1986)

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          19 Aug 2021, 21:24

                          I re-read it about 5 years ago.

                          This makes me want to revisit.

                          The interesting question is this: Should I read in order of publication, or in order of the story?

                          Having read through Alastair Reynolds' "Revelation Space" universe this summer in order of story, I think that might be a better option.

                          Chronological:

Prelude to Foundation (1988)
                          Forward the Foundation (1993)
                          Foundation (1951)
                          Foundation and Empire (1952)
                          Second Foundation (1953)
                          Foundation's Edge (1982)
                          Foundation and Earth (1986)

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 21:43 last edited by
                          #12

                          @george-k said in Foundation:

                          The interesting question is this: Should I read in order of publication, or in order of the story?

                          I would always read in order of publication. There's a few gotcha's in there - particularly the tie-in with R. Daneel from the robot stories, which clearly Asimov hadn't thought about when he started the books.

                          I was only joking

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            19 Aug 2021, 21:43

                            @george-k said in Foundation:

                            The interesting question is this: Should I read in order of publication, or in order of the story?

                            I would always read in order of publication. There's a few gotcha's in there - particularly the tie-in with R. Daneel from the robot stories, which clearly Asimov hadn't thought about when he started the books.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 21:50 last edited by
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                            @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                            I would always read in order of publication.

                            Yeah, I get it.

                            Speaking from my "Revelation Space" experience, however, I'd disagree. There are SO many ideas that are talked about in the first-published books that make no sense, other than in a vague deus ex machina sense.
                            Reading them in chronological order was a better experience for me.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              19 Aug 2021, 21:50

                              @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                              I would always read in order of publication.

                              Yeah, I get it.

                              Speaking from my "Revelation Space" experience, however, I'd disagree. There are SO many ideas that are talked about in the first-published books that make no sense, other than in a vague deus ex machina sense.
                              Reading them in chronological order was a better experience for me.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 23:01 last edited by
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                              @george-k said in Foundation:

                              Speaking from my "Revelation Space" experience, however, I'd disagree. There are SO many ideas that are talked about in the first-published books that make no sense, other than in a vague deus ex machina sense.
                              Reading them in chronological order was a better experience for me.

                              Alastair Reynolds isn't Isaac Asimov. I suspect he put a lot more planning into the series. Foundation was supposed to be a trilogy, not the ever expanding series it became.

                              I was only joking

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                19 Aug 2021, 23:01

                                @george-k said in Foundation:

                                Speaking from my "Revelation Space" experience, however, I'd disagree. There are SO many ideas that are talked about in the first-published books that make no sense, other than in a vague deus ex machina sense.
                                Reading them in chronological order was a better experience for me.

                                Alastair Reynolds isn't Isaac Asimov. I suspect he put a lot more planning into the series. Foundation was supposed to be a trilogy, not the ever expanding series it became.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 23:04 last edited by
                                #15

                                @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                                Alastair Reynolds isn't Isaac Asimov.

                                Indeed. Very different.

                                But I love Reynolds.

                                Have you read his stuff?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  19 Aug 2021, 23:04

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                                  Alastair Reynolds isn't Isaac Asimov.

                                  Indeed. Very different.

                                  But I love Reynolds.

                                  Have you read his stuff?

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 20 Aug 2021, 00:12 last edited by
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                                  @george-k said in Foundation:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                                  Alastair Reynolds isn't Isaac Asimov.

                                  Indeed. Very different.

                                  But I love Reynolds.

                                  Have you read his stuff?

                                  No, but he's on my to-do list. I'm working my way through the Expanse series at the moment, rather slowly I'm afraid.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 24 Sept 2021, 13:03 last edited by
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                                    First two episodes aired last night. Has anyone watched?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      24 Sept 2021, 13:03

                                      First two episodes aired last night. Has anyone watched?

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 24 Sept 2021, 13:09 last edited by
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                                      @george-k said in Foundation:

                                      First two episodes aired last night. Has anyone watched?

                                      Watching tonight.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 24 Sept 2021, 14:51 last edited by
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                                        Didn’t know. Will queue it up.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 2 Oct 2021, 13:29 last edited by
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                                          Thoughts?

                                          I'm finding it, though engaging, "different." High production values, beautifully filmed.

                                          But...

                                          It just doesn't FEEL like Asimov's book(s). The series takes the concept of psychohistory and uses that as a springboard to tell a somewhat related story.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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