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100% injury rate

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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    Read somewhere that NFL has 100% injury rate in that every NFL player suffers injuries in his NFL career.

    Sounds plausible enough, but is it true? People who follow professional football closely (@Jolly , @Mik , @LuFins-Dad , etc.), does this “100% injury rate” statement sounds right to you?

    I can imagine FIFA, NHL, (W)NBA, MLB, UFC, WWF, etc. all have “100% injury rates.”

    Thinking about it more, is there a professional contact sports that does not have 100% injury rate?

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      Injury can mean anything.

      I’ve never gone a full month without an injury, if you define it loosely enough.

      How about injuries that make you miss practice or games? That’s probably not 100%.

      You were warned.

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        At the pro level, every player walks away with bumps and bruises....

        The Brad

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        • AxtremusA Away
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          Let's try these couple of definitions for "injuries":

          1. Physical trauma that continues to impede motions one year after the date of trauma
          2. Physical trauma that, pre-ACA, the healthcare insurance companies would classify as "pre-existing condition"

          Hopefully those two definitions are reasonable because (1) affects your day-to-day activities long after the injury was incurred and (2) speaks to the elevated risk of needing costly medical care for said injury.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Rugby is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. Anytime rugby players run their head about how tough their sport is, remind them the reason football players wear pads, is because fifteen college football players died in 1905.

            I've had one hit that brought the crowd up on its feet...I collided with another guy hard enough to crack my helmet and break all four steel bolts that held the four-way chin strap on. I jogged back to the bench, he didn't. In games, I've hit guys hard enough to knock a helmet off or send them rolling into the track circling the field. I knocked three guys out, one bad enough they carted him off in an ambulance.

            I loved playing the game. Playing, I managed to collect a broken finger, a broken arm, a couple of cuts requiring stitches, one concussion and a cartilage tear in one knee. Bruises don't count...I would get a ridge of what we called "frogs" down both firearms by the end of the season.

            I only played high school football. I would have loved to play college ball, but I was too short and too slow. A college offensive lineman back in my day was 6'2" , 265 and ran a 5.4 forty. Today, they're bigger and faster. A NFL tackle like Terron Armstead (LT, Saints) is 6'5" , 305 lbs and runs the forty in 4.7 seconds. Ray Lewis, a former linebacker for the Ravens, once had a sports scientist calculate the force of him meeting a running back in the hole...It was the same force as the average man getting launched into a brick wall at thirty miles an hour.

            Coaches tell you, it's not if you get hurt, it's when. You can't play the game and not suffer at least minor injuries.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Injury can mean anything.

              I’ve never gone a full month without an injury, if you define it loosely enough.

              How about injuries that make you miss practice or games? That’s probably not 100%.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @jon-nyc said in 100% injury rate:

              Injury can mean anything.

              I’ve never gone a full month without an injury, if you define it loosely enough.

              Is masturbation considered a contact sport?

              I was only joking

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                Depends on whether you use a couple of fingers or the whole fist, I guess....

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Yeah, I don't think that is even in question. You simply have to look at the nature of the game. Even if it's not football, in every professional sport you are pushing your body to its physical limits. You are going to get hurt.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Yeah, I don't think that is even in question. You simply have to look at the nature of the game. Even if it's not football, in every professional sport you are pushing your body to its physical limits. You are going to get hurt.

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                    @Mik said in 100% injury rate:

                    Yeah, I don't think that is even in question. You simply have to look at the nature of the game. Even if it's not football, in every professional sport you are pushing your body to its physical limits. You are going to get hurt.

                    Very true.

                    Life is a contact sport. Every interaction has a risk of physical or emotional injury, which has individual perception of how bad it is as variable.

                    Covid is causing a ton of injury well beyond the infection itself, how is that injury measured?

                    So what lens do we want to evaluate the “injury rate”?

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