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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #1

    A pedestrian walks out in front of the car:

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #2

      Very cool.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • MikM Offline
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        #3

        Very impressive.

        Until it isn't.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
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          #4

          The future is going to suck.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            The future is going to suck.

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            Axtremus
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            @Doctor-Phibes said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

            The future is going to suck.

            If you live long enough, you will reach a time when you’re too old to drive yourself, your kids and grandkids don’t want to drive you, the human taxi/ride share/bus/train drivers have all been put out of business by self-driving AI, so your only means of going anywhere is to rely on self-driving AI anyway.

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            • CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              #6

              No helmet?

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                The future is going to suck.

                If you live long enough, you will reach a time when you’re too old to drive yourself, your kids and grandkids don’t want to drive you, the human taxi/ride share/bus/train drivers have all been put out of business by self-driving AI, so your only means of going anywhere is to rely on self-driving AI anyway.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #7

                @Axtremus said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                The future is going to suck.

                If you live long enough, you will reach a time when you’re too old to drive yourself, your kids and grandkids don’t want to drive you, the human taxi/ride share/bus/train drivers have all been put out of business by self-driving AI, so your only means of going anywhere is to rely on self-driving AI anyway.

                Like I said...

                I was only joking

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                • MikM Mik

                  Very impressive.

                  Until it isn't.

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                  @Mik said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                  Very impressive.

                  Until it isn't.

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                  https://secureservercdn.net/50.62.89.79/mvc.3f2.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/US-EV-Sales-Forecast-2019-2028-1024x577.png

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    30 minutes on FSD....

                    Link to video

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #10

                      Watching these videos, and they are, for the most part, pretty impressive, I don't see how "Full Self-Driving" is really any easier than just doing it by yourself. Maybe it's because I'm an old fart, but it strikes me as being more work than just putting your feet on the pedals and turning the wheel. As I was watching, I always thought, "Is it going to stop? C'mon, man. STOP!!" I don't need that.

                      That said, I love the adaptive cruise control in my car. It makes all kinds of driving so much easier, but requires little more, if any, attention than regular driving.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        #11

                        @Loki does that number include hybrids? It seems high.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • George KG George K

                          Watching these videos, and they are, for the most part, pretty impressive, I don't see how "Full Self-Driving" is really any easier than just doing it by yourself. Maybe it's because I'm an old fart, but it strikes me as being more work than just putting your feet on the pedals and turning the wheel. As I was watching, I always thought, "Is it going to stop? C'mon, man. STOP!!" I don't need that.

                          That said, I love the adaptive cruise control in my car. It makes all kinds of driving so much easier, but requires little more, if any, attention than regular driving.

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                          xenon
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                          #12

                          @George-K said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                          Watching these videos, and they are, for the most part, pretty impressive, I don't see how "Full Self-Driving" is really any easier than just doing it by yourself. Maybe it's because I'm an old fart, but it strikes me as being more work than just putting your feet on the pedals and turning the wheel. As I was watching, I always thought, "Is it going to stop? C'mon, man. STOP!!" I don't need that.

                          That said, I love the adaptive cruise control in my car. It makes all kinds of driving so much easier, but requires little more, if any, attention than regular driving.

                          The endgame is cars that don’t need a driver and talk to each other.

                          No intersection lights. Higher throughout, given the same infrastructure. And probably a fraction of the 40K or so deaths per year on roads. (Not sure about that number - but you get the point. )

                          Owning a car in the future will be somewhat akin to owning a horse today.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @Loki does that number include hybrids? It seems high.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                            @Loki does that number include hybrids? It seems high.

                            That’s a good point. Yes.

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                              @George-K said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                              Watching these videos, and they are, for the most part, pretty impressive, I don't see how "Full Self-Driving" is really any easier than just doing it by yourself. Maybe it's because I'm an old fart, but it strikes me as being more work than just putting your feet on the pedals and turning the wheel. As I was watching, I always thought, "Is it going to stop? C'mon, man. STOP!!" I don't need that.

                              That said, I love the adaptive cruise control in my car. It makes all kinds of driving so much easier, but requires little more, if any, attention than regular driving.

                              The endgame is cars that don’t need a driver and talk to each other.

                              No intersection lights. Higher throughout, given the same infrastructure. And probably a fraction of the 40K or so deaths per year on roads. (Not sure about that number - but you get the point. )

                              Owning a car in the future will be somewhat akin to owning a horse today.

                              AxtremusA Away
                              AxtremusA Away
                              Axtremus
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                              #14

                              @xenon said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                              The endgame is cars that don’t need a driver and talk to each other.

                              I still want Star Trek’s transporter.

                              No intersection lights.

                              Not without outlawing pedestrians and cyclists. We will still need signal lights, if only for the luddites who insist on retaining their freedom to walk or pedal with their own two feet without electromechanical aid.

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                                If self driving is supposed to be a success, we should be surprised when it does something wrong, not when it does something right.

                                I kind of agree with George that its utility is limited when you still have to be ready to take over in any second.

                                I want my self driving car to have a bed that I can sleep in and a desk I can work at while it drives me to the desired location.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  Watching these videos, and they are, for the most part, pretty impressive, I don't see how "Full Self-Driving" is really any easier than just doing it by yourself. Maybe it's because I'm an old fart, but it strikes me as being more work than just putting your feet on the pedals and turning the wheel. As I was watching, I always thought, "Is it going to stop? C'mon, man. STOP!!" I don't need that.

                                  That said, I love the adaptive cruise control in my car. It makes all kinds of driving so much easier, but requires little more, if any, attention than regular driving.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @George-K it took me a while to get used to adaptive cruise, but now I love it. The only drawback is that someties you will get stuck behind someone who is going slower than you wnt to (that's pretty much everybody for me) and you dont notice when you could have passed them on the right.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • KlausK Klaus

                                    If self driving is supposed to be a success, we should be surprised when it does something wrong, not when it does something right.

                                    I kind of agree with George that its utility is limited when you still have to be ready to take over in any second.

                                    I want my self driving car to have a bed that I can sleep in and a desk I can work at while it drives me to the desired location.

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    @Klaus said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                                    I kind of agree with George that its utility is limited when you still have to be ready to take over in any second.

                                    I will be even more impressed when the self-driving AI providers accept all legal liability otherwise borne by the human driver for whenever the vehicle is not manually taken off auto pilot.

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      If self driving is supposed to be a success, we should be surprised when it does something wrong, not when it does something right.

                                      I kind of agree with George that its utility is limited when you still have to be ready to take over in any second.

                                      I want my self driving car to have a bed that I can sleep in and a desk I can work at while it drives me to the desired location.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #18

                                      @Klaus said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                                      If self driving is supposed to be a success, we should be surprised when it does something wrong, not when it does something right.

                                      I kind of agree with George that its utility is limited when you still have to be ready to take over in any second.

                                      I want my self driving car to have a bed that I can sleep in and a desk I can work at while it drives me to the desired location.

                                      So, basically a train.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Copper
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                                        #19

                                        Once we get the self-driving figured out

                                        We won't want to go anywhere

                                        We'll just remain locked-down

                                        Maybe just send the Chevy to pick up the kids

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                                        • X xenon

                                          @George-K said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                                          Watching these videos, and they are, for the most part, pretty impressive, I don't see how "Full Self-Driving" is really any easier than just doing it by yourself. Maybe it's because I'm an old fart, but it strikes me as being more work than just putting your feet on the pedals and turning the wheel. As I was watching, I always thought, "Is it going to stop? C'mon, man. STOP!!" I don't need that.

                                          That said, I love the adaptive cruise control in my car. It makes all kinds of driving so much easier, but requires little more, if any, attention than regular driving.

                                          The endgame is cars that don’t need a driver and talk to each other.

                                          No intersection lights. Higher throughout, given the same infrastructure. And probably a fraction of the 40K or so deaths per year on roads. (Not sure about that number - but you get the point. )

                                          Owning a car in the future will be somewhat akin to owning a horse today.

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                                          @xenon said in Tesla "Full Self-Driving" Beta released:

                                          No intersection lights. Higher throughout, given the same infrastructure. And probably a fraction of the 40K or so deaths per year on roads.

                                          I agree. I was reading that alot of traffic jams are not because of too many cars on the road, but because the cars are going different speeds. Almost like a "Slinky" toy. One car slows. The one behind reacts, behind that one reacts a bit slower, until eventually a car comes to a stop.

                                          Link to video

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