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Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?

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  • George KG George K

    @LuFins-Dad said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

    beginning of a 3rd wave that looks like it will be massively larger than what’s come before

    Screen Shot 2020-10-22 at 7.46.34 AM.png Screen Shot 2020-10-22 at 7.47.01 AM.png

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    LuFins Dad
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    @George-K said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

    beginning of a 3rd wave that looks like it will be massively larger than what’s come before

    Screen Shot 2020-10-22 at 7.46.34 AM.png Screen Shot 2020-10-22 at 7.47.01 AM.png

    Fucking hell, that’s not a wave that’s a tsunami. Aren’t they wearing masks?

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @George-K said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

      beginning of a 3rd wave that looks like it will be massively larger than what’s come before

      Screen Shot 2020-10-22 at 7.46.34 AM.png Screen Shot 2020-10-22 at 7.47.01 AM.png

      Fucking hell, that’s not a wave that’s a tsunami. Aren’t they wearing masks?

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      @LuFins-Dad said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

      Fucking hell, that’s not a wave that’s a tsunami. Aren’t they wearing masks?

      Schools have been open five days a week, lots of people are working in the office. Pubs and bars are open. Population density is 3.5 times higher than in the US. It's not really a surprise.

      I was only joking

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        LuFins Dad
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        Schools open in the US don’t seem to be a major factor...
        https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/schools-arent-superspreaders/616669/

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          Schools open in the US don’t seem to be a major factor...
          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/schools-arent-superspreaders/616669/

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          @LuFins-Dad said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

          Schools open in the US don’t seem to be a major factor...
          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/schools-arent-superspreaders/616669/

          That defies everything that happens with viruses and bacteria that are far, far less infectious. Excuse me if I wait awhile longer to see more information before concluding this.

          Please love yourself.

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            I don't know what it's like in the rest of the country, but here the schools are not operating in a normal way. The kids go into school 2 days a week, work in small groups or alone 2 days a week, and have online lessons one day a week. So, the school population is roughly 50% of normal to enable distancing. In the UK, my nieces and nephews are going in 5 days a week.

            I would also say that the Atlantic article is very opinionated. They clearly have an argument to push.

            I was only joking

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            • George KG George K

              @LuFins-Dad said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

              beginning of a 3rd wave that looks like it will be massively larger than what’s come before

              Screen Shot 2020-10-22 at 7.46.34 AM.png Screen Shot 2020-10-22 at 7.47.01 AM.png

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              @George-K said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

              beginning of a 3rd wave that looks like it will be massively larger than what’s come before

              Screen Shot 2020-10-22 at 7.46.34 AM.png Screen Shot 2020-10-22 at 7.47.01 AM.png

              The election narrative is the US is the worst. You can’t publish this stuff.

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              • MikM Mik

                I think the benefits are obvious, but extended interaction is still going to be risky.

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                @Mik said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

                I think the benefits are obvious,

                That's the problem.

                Everyone (almost everyone) just knows that it works.

                As far as I know there is absolutely no proof.

                But a mask is no guarantee of anything, you have to take it on faith.

                You can't point at a case caused by not wearing a mask.

                You can't point at a case prevented by wearing a mask.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  No, there's no proof, but there's evidence.

                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7191274/

                  https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8

                  https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

                  https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

                    Fucking hell, that’s not a wave that’s a tsunami. Aren’t they wearing masks?

                    Schools have been open five days a week, lots of people are working in the office. Pubs and bars are open. Population density is 3.5 times higher than in the US. It's not really a surprise.

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Another Contrarian View on Masks - have they done anything?:

                    Fucking hell, that’s not a wave that’s a tsunami. Aren’t they wearing masks?

                    Schools have been open five days a week, lots of people are working in the office. Pubs and bars are open. Population density is 3.5 times higher than in the US. It's not really a surprise.

                    The third world is always worse. That's why it's third.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Dude, you live in California.

                      I was only joking

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