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  • LarryL Offline
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    Larry
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    Modern liberalism was a mental disease. Modern liberalism died from that disease, and the fungus that grew on its carcass has taken over it's political party's name. The intelligent liberals have abandoned the new democrat Socialist Leftist nonsense that took over their party. Those who remain are people who have no principles and will vote for anything the democrat party tells them to vote for.

    One of the few common threads to tie the new democrats to the old democrats is the predictable way they vilify those who disagree with them. So of course democrats are voting against Trump and not FOR anything. What's new or surprising about that? That's how they do it ALL the time. The hate Trump. But they hated Bush too. Everything was "Bush's fault". They hated the first Bush. The hated Reagan. They hated every single Republican who dared run for office.

    The democrat party IS the party of hate. It has been the party of hate for its entire history. And the rank and file Democrats still calling themselves democrats are driven by hate. That's why they are able to support the murder of infants- the have no moral compass, they have no principles. And they will vote for and defend the party line even when down deep inside they know full well it will end up costing them.

    When I was in high school you were required to take civics in order to graduate. Then the mentally ill democrat/Left began to riot, destroy property, kill people, etc all while calling themselves the "love generation" . The democrat party got control of government, and civics was eliminated and replaced by "Social Studies". Soon, our colleges switched from being education centers to the brainwashing camps they are today, and now Social Studies has become "Social Justice". And old guys like me who lived through all this and watched it unfold get argued with by people who aren't even old enough to have lived through Jimmy Carter.

    We hear "things are better when democrats are in the White House" and the claim is backed up with a bunch of bull shit they googled. Those of us who lived through the period of time you googled are painfully aware of just how wrong that is, but today's "geniuses" dont care because by God we've got data and we dont see that our entire worldview is tainted by the hate that every fucking belief weve been trained to hold is built on.

    I halfway hope Biden wins. I don't believe the left in this nation deserves anything better. I think it's time for you to get what you've been asking for.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      So what happens if Slow Joe is elected?

      What will voters do then?

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      @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

      So what happens if Slow Joe is elected?

      What will voters do then?

      They'll begin to take their final flights.

      There'll be no more airplanes in 10 years.

      And no more coal to make electricity for their cars.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Maybe describing the outgroup as homogeneous and uniquely problematic isn’t the most effective way of communicating your (justifiable) unhappiness with being similarly typecast?

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        @jon-nyc said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

        Maybe describing the outgroup as homogeneous and uniquely problematic isn’t the most effective way of communicating your (justifiable) unhappiness with being similarly typecast?

        Right, I’ll fix that.

        In my experience, 99% of the Biden supporters aren’t Pro-Biden but are Anti-Trump. Of the Democrat supporters that I have seen, 97% consider anybody supporting Conservative Values and Policies as racists, xenophobes, violent, gun crazed lunatics that aren’t very intelligent.

        Full disclosure, this does not necessarily represent all Bidensupporters, just 99% of those I have personally interacted with.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @jon-nyc said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

          Maybe describing the outgroup as homogeneous and uniquely problematic isn’t the most effective way of communicating your (justifiable) unhappiness with being similarly typecast?

          Right, I’ll fix that.

          In my experience, 99% of the Biden supporters aren’t Pro-Biden but are Anti-Trump. Of the Democrat supporters that I have seen, 97% consider anybody supporting Conservative Values and Policies as racists, xenophobes, violent, gun crazed lunatics that aren’t very intelligent.

          Full disclosure, this does not necessarily represent all Bidensupporters, just 99% of those I have personally interacted with.

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          jon-nyc
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          @LuFins-Dad said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

          Of the Democrat supporters that I have seen, 97% consider anybody supporting Conservative Values and Policies as racists, xenophobes, violent, gun crazed lunatics that aren’t very intelligent.

          What if I told you they only thought 97% were racists, xenophobes, violent, gun crazed lunatics that aren’t very intelligent?

          You were warned.

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            Loki
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            A win is almost always confused as a mandate. Just remember that when the wars continue and the democrats wonder what happened to their running the table.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              #15

              Biden supports:

              1. $2T spending in four years for his version of a green New deal.
              2. A $15/hr minimum wage.
              3. To recommit to the Paris Climate Accord and the resulting cost.
              4. Free public college
              5. Free universal pre-k
              6. Banning "assault weapons".
              7. Red flag gun laws.
              8. A relatively open border.
              9. Amnesty for illegal aliens.
              10. Federal funding of abortion.
              11. Twelve weeks of paid family leave.
              12. Supports a House Bill to lay the groundwork for reparations.
              13. Opposes public school vouchers.
              14. Opposes for-profit charter schools.
              15. End cash bail.
              16. End new oil and gas leases in federal land.
              17. Establish a national firearms regustry.
              18. Increase capital gains taxes.
              19. Raise corporate raxes.
              20. Raise income taxes.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                MainerMikeBrown
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                #16

                As someone who hasn't watched the news much lately, I don't know much about Joe Biden.

                However, I know enough about Trump. Hence, I'll be voting for Biden.

                JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                  Of the Democrat supporters that I have seen, 97% consider anybody supporting Conservative Values and Policies as racists, xenophobes, violent, gun crazed lunatics that aren’t very intelligent.

                  What if I told you they only thought 97% were racists, xenophobes, violent, gun crazed lunatics that aren’t very intelligent?

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                  @jon-nyc said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                  Of the Democrat supporters that I have seen, 97% consider anybody supporting Conservative Values and Policies as racists, xenophobes, violent, gun crazed lunatics that aren’t very intelligent.

                  What if I told you they only thought 97% were racists, xenophobes, violent, gun crazed lunatics that aren’t very intelligent?

                  I would say “in your experience”...

                  The Brad

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                  • M MainerMikeBrown

                    As someone who hasn't watched the news much lately, I don't know much about Joe Biden.

                    However, I know enough about Trump. Hence, I'll be voting for Biden.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    #18

                    @MainerMikeBrown said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                    As someone who hasn't watched the news much lately, I don't know much about Joe Biden.

                    However, I know enough about Trump. Hence, I'll be voting for Biden.

                    Vote issues, Mike. Not personalities.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Biden supports:

                      1. $2T spending in four years for his version of a green New deal.
                      2. A $15/hr minimum wage.
                      3. To recommit to the Paris Climate Accord and the resulting cost.
                      4. Free public college
                      5. Free universal pre-k
                      6. Banning "assault weapons".
                      7. Red flag gun laws.
                      8. A relatively open border.
                      9. Amnesty for illegal aliens.
                      10. Federal funding of abortion.
                      11. Twelve weeks of paid family leave.
                      12. Supports a House Bill to lay the groundwork for reparations.
                      13. Opposes public school vouchers.
                      14. Opposes for-profit charter schools.
                      15. End cash bail.
                      16. End new oil and gas leases in federal land.
                      17. Establish a national firearms regustry.
                      18. Increase capital gains taxes.
                      19. Raise corporate raxes.
                      20. Raise income taxes.
                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #19

                      @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                      Biden supports:

                      1. $2T spending in four years for his version of a green New deal.
                      2. A $15/hr minimum wage.
                      3. To recommit to the Paris Climate Accord and the resulting cost.
                      4. Free public college
                      5. Free universal pre-k
                      6. Banning "assault weapons".
                      7. Red flag gun laws.
                      8. A relatively open border.
                      9. Amnesty for illegal aliens.
                      10. Federal funding of abortion.
                      11. Twelve weeks of paid family leave.
                      12. Supports a House Bill to lay the groundwork for reparations.
                      13. Opposes public school vouchers.
                      14. Opposes for-profit charter schools.
                      15. End cash bail.
                      16. End new oil and gas leases in federal land.
                      17. Establish a national firearms regustry.
                      18. Increase capital gains taxes.
                      19. Raise corporate raxes.
                      20. Raise income taxes.

                      I'd vote for quite a bit of that, TBH.

                      What worries me about Biden isn't his policies.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                        Biden supports:

                        1. $2T spending in four years for his version of a green New deal.
                        2. A $15/hr minimum wage.
                        3. To recommit to the Paris Climate Accord and the resulting cost.
                        4. Free public college
                        5. Free universal pre-k
                        6. Banning "assault weapons".
                        7. Red flag gun laws.
                        8. A relatively open border.
                        9. Amnesty for illegal aliens.
                        10. Federal funding of abortion.
                        11. Twelve weeks of paid family leave.
                        12. Supports a House Bill to lay the groundwork for reparations.
                        13. Opposes public school vouchers.
                        14. Opposes for-profit charter schools.
                        15. End cash bail.
                        16. End new oil and gas leases in federal land.
                        17. Establish a national firearms regustry.
                        18. Increase capital gains taxes.
                        19. Raise corporate raxes.
                        20. Raise income taxes.

                        I'd vote for quite a bit of that, TBH.

                        What worries me about Biden isn't his policies.

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                        I'd vote for quite a bit of that, TBH.
                        What worries me about Biden isn't his policies.

                        Same.

                        The paid family leave thing to me is hilarious. The number of jobs/careers/etc Americans have over the course of their professional life is increasing exponentially. Because they're all lazy second-stringers, of course, trying to mooch off of the real patriots around here. Has nothing to do with the fact that the average medieval peasant had more annual free time than the average modern office schmuck.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                          Biden supports:

                          1. $2T spending in four years for his version of a green New deal.
                          2. A $15/hr minimum wage.
                          3. To recommit to the Paris Climate Accord and the resulting cost.
                          4. Free public college
                          5. Free universal pre-k
                          6. Banning "assault weapons".
                          7. Red flag gun laws.
                          8. A relatively open border.
                          9. Amnesty for illegal aliens.
                          10. Federal funding of abortion.
                          11. Twelve weeks of paid family leave.
                          12. Supports a House Bill to lay the groundwork for reparations.
                          13. Opposes public school vouchers.
                          14. Opposes for-profit charter schools.
                          15. End cash bail.
                          16. End new oil and gas leases in federal land.
                          17. Establish a national firearms regustry.
                          18. Increase capital gains taxes.
                          19. Raise corporate raxes.
                          20. Raise income taxes.

                          I'd vote for quite a bit of that, TBH.

                          What worries me about Biden isn't his policies.

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                          George K
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                          I'd vote for quite a bit of that, TBH.

                          Which ones?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                            I'd vote for quite a bit of that, TBH.
                            What worries me about Biden isn't his policies.

                            Same.

                            The paid family leave thing to me is hilarious. The number of jobs/careers/etc Americans have over the course of their professional life is increasing exponentially. Because they're all lazy second-stringers, of course, trying to mooch off of the real patriots around here. Has nothing to do with the fact that the average medieval peasant had more annual free time than the average modern office schmuck.

                            JollyJ Offline
                            JollyJ Offline
                            Jolly
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                            I'd vote for quite a bit of that, TBH.
                            What worries me about Biden isn't his policies.

                            Same.

                            The paid family leave thing to me is hilarious. The number of jobs/careers/etc Americans have over the course of their professional life is increasing exponentially. Because they're all lazy second-stringers, of course, trying to mooch off of the real patriots around here. Has nothing to do with the fact that the average medieval peasant had more annual free time than the average modern office schmuck.

                            I've read quite a bit on medieval peasantry. Care to flesh that one out a bit?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                              I'd vote for quite a bit of that, TBH.
                              What worries me about Biden isn't his policies.

                              Same.

                              The paid family leave thing to me is hilarious. The number of jobs/careers/etc Americans have over the course of their professional life is increasing exponentially. Because they're all lazy second-stringers, of course, trying to mooch off of the real patriots around here. Has nothing to do with the fact that the average medieval peasant had more annual free time than the average modern office schmuck.

                              I've read quite a bit on medieval peasantry. Care to flesh that one out a bit?

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                              I've read quite a bit on medieval peasantry. Care to flesh that one out a bit?

                              Seasonal fluxes. Sure the work was long and backbreaking, no medical, etc., etc., but even for busy fiefdoms you had at least 70 or so days off. Some of them worked 180 days per annum, tops.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                I've read quite a bit on medieval peasantry. Care to flesh that one out a bit?

                                Seasonal fluxes. Sure the work was long and backbreaking, no medical, etc., etc., but even for busy fiefdoms you had at least 70 or so days off. Some of them worked 180 days per annum, tops.

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                                Jolly
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                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                I've read quite a bit on medieval peasantry. Care to flesh that one out a bit?

                                Seasonal fluxes. Sure the work was long and backbreaking, no medical, etc., etc., but even for busy fiefdoms you had at least 70 or so days off. Some of them worked 180 days per annum, tops.

                                They worked for their Lords that much. How much did they have to work for themselves, to make sure they had food, shelter and the necessities of life?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                  @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                  I've read quite a bit on medieval peasantry. Care to flesh that one out a bit?

                                  Seasonal fluxes. Sure the work was long and backbreaking, no medical, etc., etc., but even for busy fiefdoms you had at least 70 or so days off. Some of them worked 180 days per annum, tops.

                                  They worked for their Lords that much. How much did they have to work for themselves, to make sure they had food, shelter and the necessities of life?

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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                  They worked for their Lords that much. How much did they have to work for themselves, to make sure they had food, shelter and the necessities of life?

                                  Job to job, externalities to externalities, they had far more time.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                    They worked for their Lords that much. How much did they have to work for themselves, to make sure they had food, shelter and the necessities of life?

                                    Job to job, externalities to externalities, they had far more time.

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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                    @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                    They worked for their Lords that much. How much did they have to work for themselves, to make sure they had food, shelter and the necessities of life?

                                    Job to job, externalities to externalities, they had far more time.

                                    The lifespan of a medieval peasant was about 35 years. His workday typically started at 3AM and continued until dark. He worked for his lord an average of three days a week, the other days he worked for himself. his work was back-breaking and at a level few modern cube rate could manage. The thought that modern office workers work harder is laughable. He had some leisure time, probably about right weeks total.

                                    His home was usually one-room, windowless and with a fire in the muddle, leading to a smojy, dark home. His food was mostly cereals, with some vegetables. Some were lucky enough to have fish or fruit available.

                                    It was a tough life, filled with hard work and most likely a very short life.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                      @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                      They worked for their Lords that much. How much did they have to work for themselves, to make sure they had food, shelter and the necessities of life?

                                      Job to job, externalities to externalities, they had far more time.

                                      The lifespan of a medieval peasant was about 35 years. His workday typically started at 3AM and continued until dark. He worked for his lord an average of three days a week, the other days he worked for himself. his work was back-breaking and at a level few modern cube rate could manage. The thought that modern office workers work harder is laughable. He had some leisure time, probably about right weeks total.

                                      His home was usually one-room, windowless and with a fire in the muddle, leading to a smojy, dark home. His food was mostly cereals, with some vegetables. Some were lucky enough to have fish or fruit available.

                                      It was a tough life, filled with hard work and most likely a very short life.

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                                      @Jolly said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                      His workday which was only half the year

                                      FIFY.

                                      I'm not talking overall quality of life, I'm talking annual work hours.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        I have no doubt that 99% of Biden’s supporters are just voting against Trump. Of course, if it was any other Republican 97% of Biden’s support would still be the same.

                                        It’s not about liking their guy, it’s about being against those evil, racist, fascist, greedy, stupid, diabolical Republicans. Trump makes it slightly worse, but is it really that much worse than it was with W, McCain/Palin, Mitt?

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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                        I have no doubt that 99% of Biden’s supporters are just voting against Trump. Of course, if it was any other Republican 97% of Biden’s support would still be the same.

                                        It’s not about liking their guy, it’s about being against those evil, racist, fascist, greedy, stupid, diabolical Republicans. Trump makes it slightly worse, but is it really that much worse than it was with W, McCain/Palin, Mitt?

                                        A hundred fold

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                          I have no doubt that 99% of Biden’s supporters are just voting against Trump. Of course, if it was any other Republican 97% of Biden’s support would still be the same.

                                          It’s not about liking their guy, it’s about being against those evil, racist, fascist, greedy, stupid, diabolical Republicans. Trump makes it slightly worse, but is it really that much worse than it was with W, McCain/Palin, Mitt?

                                          A hundred fold

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                                          @nobodyssock said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Voters do not really care about Joe Biden ...:

                                          I have no doubt that 99% of Biden’s supporters are just voting against Trump. Of course, if it was any other Republican 97% of Biden’s support would still be the same.

                                          It’s not about liking their guy, it’s about being against those evil, racist, fascist, greedy, stupid, diabolical Republicans. Trump makes it slightly worse, but is it really that much worse than it was with W, McCain/Palin, Mitt?

                                          A hundred fold

                                          LOL, your denial just affirms it. Go look at the undecideds thread and the article that spawned it. If undecideds disgust the left that much, how much more so the actual Trump supporters?

                                          The Brad

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