So, I did the 23andMe thing.
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My wife's brother and wife and my oldest and my youngest did the DNA thing.
- Discovered wife's grandfather had hid his Jewish roots his entire life.
- Found a 90+ year old cousin of wife's mother still alive and have had a great re-union with her and found out lots of surprising family history.
- Had to come clean to my twin girls that they were IVF and I am not their biological father.
- Connected with the bio-dad and he is a very nice guy, has a bitchy 2nd wife that isn't happy about this, and found my girls have about 6 half-siblings.
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Results are in: I am very, very much a bloody Limey.
I have some ancestors in Glasgow, Edinburgh and South Yorkshire, but the vast majority is from London. Freaking London. It's far an away the strongest match. 90+ percent.
I'll never hear the end of it from @Doctor-Phibes .
Please love yourself.
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Results are in: I am very, very much a bloody Limey.
I have some ancestors in Glasgow, Edinburgh and South Yorkshire, but the vast majority is from London. Freaking London. It's far an away the strongest match. 90+ percent.
I'll never hear the end of it from @Doctor-Phibes .
@Aqua-Letifer You are in for sh*t.
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I mean, just look at this. It's not like it's some great-great-great so-and-so, it's everyone I'm related to.
FFS.
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Holy hell.
How accurate are these things, does anyone know? Like, what's the variability?
In the DNA ancestry portion, it gives you a list of other users you're related to and by how much.
I have 2 freaking people who are first cousins, once removed. One would be, according to 23andMe, a nephew of one of my biological parents, and one would be one of their first cousins.
That's... a... little close.
Sent them both messages, told them everything I know about my biological parents, asked if that sounded like anyone they know. Fuck it, worth a shot.
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Holy hell.
How accurate are these things, does anyone know? Like, what's the variability?
In the DNA ancestry portion, it gives you a list of other users you're related to and by how much.
I have 2 freaking people who are first cousins, once removed. One would be, according to 23andMe, a nephew of one of my biological parents, and one would be one of their first cousins.
That's... a... little close.
Sent them both messages, told them everything I know about my biological parents, asked if that sounded like anyone they know. Fuck it, worth a shot.
@Aqua-Letifer said in So, I did the 23andMe thing.:
Holy hell.
How accurate are these things, does anyone know? Like, what's the variability?
In the DNA ancestry portion, it gives you a list of other users you're related to and by how much.
I have 2 freaking people who are first cousins, once removed. One would be, according to 23andMe, a nephew of one of my biological parents, and one would be one of their first cousins.
That's... a... little close.
Sent them both messages, told them everything I know about my biological parents, asked if that sounded like anyone they know. Fuck it, worth a shot.
So, that could be very interesting and certainly the outcomes are not predictable at all, at least initially.
As far as being related to people, many don’t even hang with their siblings or cousins, what makes you think that second cousin is going to be a big deal in your life? -
Results are in: I am very, very much a bloody Limey.
I have some ancestors in Glasgow, Edinburgh and South Yorkshire, but the vast majority is from London. Freaking London. It's far an away the strongest match. 90+ percent.
I'll never hear the end of it from @Doctor-Phibes .
@Aqua-Letifer said in So, I did the 23andMe thing.:
Results are in: I am very, very much a bloody Limey.
I have some ancestors in Glasgow, Edinburgh and South Yorkshire, but the vast majority is from London. Freaking London. It's far an away the strongest match. 90+ percent.
I'll never hear the end of it from @Doctor-Phibes .
I’ll believe it when u start writing centre and colour. Or When using aluminium foil. Or start having diarrhoea.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in So, I did the 23andMe thing.:
Holy hell.
How accurate are these things, does anyone know? Like, what's the variability?
In the DNA ancestry portion, it gives you a list of other users you're related to and by how much.
I have 2 freaking people who are first cousins, once removed. One would be, according to 23andMe, a nephew of one of my biological parents, and one would be one of their first cousins.
That's... a... little close.
Sent them both messages, told them everything I know about my biological parents, asked if that sounded like anyone they know. Fuck it, worth a shot.
So, that could be very interesting and certainly the outcomes are not predictable at all, at least initially.
As far as being related to people, many don’t even hang with their siblings or cousins, what makes you think that second cousin is going to be a big deal in your life?@Loki said in So, I did the 23andMe thing.:
So, that could be very interesting and certainly the outcomes are not predictable at all, at least initially.
As far as being related to people, many don’t even hang with their siblings or cousins, what makes you think that second cousin is going to be a big deal in your life?It's not like that for me. I've got a family and we've all got our problems but we're okay otherwise. I'm not looking to jump ship. I'm not looking to add people in my life, either.
I think it's one of those things that's hard to convey. Every single time I visit a doctor's and we go through the "does your family have any history of" list, I gotta say I don't know. When people ask me my ancestry, well, I knew my family's ancestry but it's not necessarily mine, at all. Having a family is different from knowing the circumstances behind your existence. I don't know shit about mine, from my birth on back. Absolutely nothing.
A buddy of mine was adopted. He went on this weird ass 10-year odyssey to find his biological parents. Turns out they were first cousins living in an Amish community. His birth brought great and terrible shame on the whole community. No one wanted to speak to him, obviously.
He's still glad he found out and I fully understand that.
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@Loki said in So, I did the 23andMe thing.:
So, that could be very interesting and certainly the outcomes are not predictable at all, at least initially.
As far as being related to people, many don’t even hang with their siblings or cousins, what makes you think that second cousin is going to be a big deal in your life?It's not like that for me. I've got a family and we've all got our problems but we're okay otherwise. I'm not looking to jump ship. I'm not looking to add people in my life, either.
I think it's one of those things that's hard to convey. Every single time I visit a doctor's and we go through the "does your family have any history of" list, I gotta say I don't know. When people ask me my ancestry, well, I knew my family's ancestry but it's not necessarily mine, at all. Having a family is different from knowing the circumstances behind your existence. I don't know shit about mine, from my birth on back. Absolutely nothing.
A buddy of mine was adopted. He went on this weird ass 10-year odyssey to find his biological parents. Turns out they were first cousins living in an Amish community. His birth brought great and terrible shame on the whole community. No one wanted to speak to him, obviously.
He's still glad he found out and I fully understand that.
I get It and wasn’t speaking to you about infatuation with distant connections. I am as removed from mine as you are from yours.
As for your journey, I think the health stuff may ultimately be the least interesting and if yo hare ready to dive in to discovery I think that’s great. I know enough to know that you have no idea what you will find. It’s super personal and loved ones around you could be ambivalent.
It’s hard to make up for lack of shared experience. May be easier with a long lost sibling or half sibling. For some reason it’s easier to get the bond.
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I get It and wasn’t speaking to you about infatuation with distant connections. I am as removed from mine as you are from yours.
As for your journey, I think the health stuff may ultimately be the least interesting and if yo hare ready to dive in to discovery I think that’s great. I know enough to know that you have no idea what you will find. It’s super personal and loved ones around you could be ambivalent.
It’s hard to make up for lack of shared experience. May be easier with a long lost sibling or half sibling. For some reason it’s easier to get the bond.
@Loki said in So, I did the 23andMe thing.:
I get It and wasn’t speaking to you about infatuation with distant connections. I am as removed from mine as you are from yours.
As for your journey, I think the health stuff may ultimately be the least interesting and if yo hare ready to dive in to discovery I think that’s great. I know enough to know that you have no idea what you will find. It’s super personal and loved ones around you could be ambivalent.
It’s hard to make up for lack of shared experience. May be easier with a long lost sibling or half sibling. For some reason it’s easier to get the bond.
Yeah, it's really just the personal information I'm after. How they would feel about it on their end is entirely up to them; like I said, not shopping for new family members.
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My family's history was recently better understood after a 23andMe exploration. The things we thought we knew were not true.
My father was born out of wedlock in Canada in 1913. My sister spent the better part of 20 years researching the names listed as his parents on the birth certificate. She visited the research center in Salt Lake City several times along with a trip to Toronto to dig through files there. She did identify a person whose name matched the mother on the birth certificate and even a grave for that person.
What we did know is that my father's mother brought her newborn son down to Chicago where she placed him with a family to care for him while she returned to Canada to do clerical work and send funds for his care. She struggled to keep up payments, and we have letters from her to the caretaker family talking of her life in Canada. But the expense became too great, and the caretaker family offered to raise my father as their own. The last of the letters from his biological mother ceased with my father at about age 3. Sadly, my father grew up with no awareness he was adopted until at age 18 reading the obituary for the man who had raised him. My father's name was not listed with his brother and sister in the obituary. When he asked why the omission, he was finally told that the truth that the parents he had always thought were his own, were not. My father attempted to find his birth mother with no success.
BUT then the plot thickens when last year my brother did 23andMe and some investigation followed. It now appears that little on the birth certificate was true except for the place and date of birth. There are two living individuals whose last name allowed for us to track back to 1913 and discover who my father's mother really was - and with a little bit of investigation, who the father was - a married man having an affair.
It's a shame that both my father and sister who did so much research passed away without learning this information. They both would have appreciated having some closure on this mystery.
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You should be able to get some family medical information at the very least...
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You should be able to get some family medical information at the very least...
@LuFins-Dad said in So, I did the 23andMe thing.:
You should be able to get some family medical information at the very least...
From 23andMe, yes. From the state, not a chance in Hell. The system is set up to protect the anonymity of the biological parents, full stop.
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My family's history was recently better understood after a 23andMe exploration. The things we thought we knew were not true.
My father was born out of wedlock in Canada in 1913. My sister spent the better part of 20 years researching the names listed as his parents on the birth certificate. She visited the research center in Salt Lake City several times along with a trip to Toronto to dig through files there. She did identify a person whose name matched the mother on the birth certificate and even a grave for that person.
What we did know is that my father's mother brought her newborn son down to Chicago where she placed him with a family to care for him while she returned to Canada to do clerical work and send funds for his care. She struggled to keep up payments, and we have letters from her to the caretaker family talking of her life in Canada. But the expense became too great, and the caretaker family offered to raise my father as their own. The last of the letters from his biological mother ceased with my father at about age 3. Sadly, my father grew up with no awareness he was adopted until at age 18 reading the obituary for the man who had raised him. My father's name was not listed with his brother and sister in the obituary. When he asked why the omission, he was finally told that the truth that the parents he had always thought were his own, were not. My father attempted to find his birth mother with no success.
BUT then the plot thickens when last year my brother did 23andMe and some investigation followed. It now appears that little on the birth certificate was true except for the place and date of birth. There are two living individuals whose last name allowed for us to track back to 1913 and discover who my father's mother really was - and with a little bit of investigation, who the father was - a married man having an affair.
It's a shame that both my father and sister who did so much research passed away without learning this information. They both would have appreciated having some closure on this mystery.
@kluurs said in So, I did the 23andMe thing.:
It's a shame that both my father and sister who did so much research passed away without learning this information. They both would have appreciated having some closure on this mystery.
That's a hell of a story, Ken. Yes, that's very much a shame.
My folks always told me I was adopted. People sometimes ask me "how old were you when your parents told you?" It wasn't like that. They started telling me when I was born, so I always knew.
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My family's history was recently better understood after a 23andMe exploration. The things we thought we knew were not true.
My father was born out of wedlock in Canada in 1913. My sister spent the better part of 20 years researching the names listed as his parents on the birth certificate. She visited the research center in Salt Lake City several times along with a trip to Toronto to dig through files there. She did identify a person whose name matched the mother on the birth certificate and even a grave for that person.
What we did know is that my father's mother brought her newborn son down to Chicago where she placed him with a family to care for him while she returned to Canada to do clerical work and send funds for his care. She struggled to keep up payments, and we have letters from her to the caretaker family talking of her life in Canada. But the expense became too great, and the caretaker family offered to raise my father as their own. The last of the letters from his biological mother ceased with my father at about age 3. Sadly, my father grew up with no awareness he was adopted until at age 18 reading the obituary for the man who had raised him. My father's name was not listed with his brother and sister in the obituary. When he asked why the omission, he was finally told that the truth that the parents he had always thought were his own, were not. My father attempted to find his birth mother with no success.
BUT then the plot thickens when last year my brother did 23andMe and some investigation followed. It now appears that little on the birth certificate was true except for the place and date of birth. There are two living individuals whose last name allowed for us to track back to 1913 and discover who my father's mother really was - and with a little bit of investigation, who the father was - a married man having an affair.
It's a shame that both my father and sister who did so much research passed away without learning this information. They both would have appreciated having some closure on this mystery.
I have learned a few things myself. One relative spent her whole life doing the genealogy of her family. She contacted me on a dna match. I talked to my dad who said his father’s brother was married and then his ex wife gave up their child for a while (side story-she was a maid for Bloomingdale) and then got him back when this nice man married her and the son took his name without knowing he was adopted. The daughter of that man contacted me.
I also found from her that I was related to a relatively famous person, which she discovered from the other DNA company.
A lot will come out from DNA. There are many secrets being exposed for sure.
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I know my family tree back to the early 1700’s on my father’s side and the 1800’s on my mom’s. I am hesitant to put my info in this data base and I have a pretty good idea of our genetic background already.
