How Will Your Life Change if..........
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:01 last edited by
Probably about half the people on this forum will be unhappy on US election night as their preferred candidate will not have won.
So, my question is:
If your preferred candidate does not win, how do you REALISTICALLY think that your life will change?
Maybe look two years down the road. I am looking for things that you think will "materially" change, not just mental.
Because, I am sure a lot of people will respond:
"If President Trump is re-elected, the US will go down the path of dictators, no rights for immigrants or gay people, etc."
"If VP Biden is elected, the US will become communist and there will be anarchy in the streets"For me, I cannot see anything that will change that will impact me. For me, somewhat unique in being outside the US, but in talking to my friends back in the US from both sides, pretty much most of the change they say will be more mental than actual.
How about you guys? How will your life change?
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:15 last edited by
I’m hoping it’s Biden, because he’s super boring. I’m tired of news about the President.
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:19 last edited by
My life specifically? Probably not a great deal.
But that is not what I am looking at.
A Biden presidency will continue the leftward slide toward globalism, a weakened foreign policy, a return to the Iran deal that promises a nuclear armed Iran in a few years, a weakened military, goverment enforced climate initiatives, weakened law enforcement.
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:19 last edited by
Biden will win the Nobel Peace Prize and the world will have so much more respect for us and we will have a greater say in all world affairs.
We will stop outsourcing good jobs to other countries.
Everyone will select the college of their choice for free.
Anyone who wants to go to the Mayo Clinic will go free as human right.
All debts will be wiped out if you make less than the average middle income wage.
Iran will be so appreciative that we honor those deal that they will sign a peace treaty with Israel.
North Korea will join with South Korea.
China will share the South China Sea with us and stop claiming ownership of islands.
Putin will be furious and totally isolated from EU countries and have to supply energy at their rates. Russians will throw an early election and dump him.
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My life specifically? Probably not a great deal.
But that is not what I am looking at.
A Biden presidency will continue the leftward slide toward globalism, a weakened foreign policy, a return to the Iran deal that promises a nuclear armed Iran in a few years, a weakened military, goverment enforced climate initiatives, weakened law enforcement.
wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:25 last edited by@Mik said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
A Biden presidency will continue the leftward slide toward globalism
I am curious why you think this is a leftward thing?
Maybe my history is wrong, but I thought (in general), Democrats have historically been more “isolationist” than Republics.
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:25 last edited by
@xenon said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I’m hoping it’s Biden, because he’s super boring. I’m tired of news about the President.
I think Jonah Goldberg said something like "Exciting politics is never good politics."
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:29 last edited by
@xenon said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I’m hoping it’s Biden, because he’s super boring. I’m tired of news about the President.
Lol! As a Belgian, I can only agree. I long for the time when I can open the newspaper without Trump being the first thing I see. Even with the Belgian government formation (which was truly a ridiculous circus show), Trump was usually a bigger headline. He certainly made (some) Belgian newspapers great again!
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Probably about half the people on this forum will be unhappy on US election night as their preferred candidate will not have won.
So, my question is:
If your preferred candidate does not win, how do you REALISTICALLY think that your life will change?
Maybe look two years down the road. I am looking for things that you think will "materially" change, not just mental.
Because, I am sure a lot of people will respond:
"If President Trump is re-elected, the US will go down the path of dictators, no rights for immigrants or gay people, etc."
"If VP Biden is elected, the US will become communist and there will be anarchy in the streets"For me, I cannot see anything that will change that will impact me. For me, somewhat unique in being outside the US, but in talking to my friends back in the US from both sides, pretty much most of the change they say will be more mental than actual.
How about you guys? How will your life change?
wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:32 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
If your preferred candidate does not win, how do you REALISTICALLY think that your life will change?
It depends on a lot.
I could lose my job and be outed publicly as a certified Bad Person. And I would absolutely love to have a conversation about how realistic I think that is but it'd have to be in person.
The biggest reason I have right now to consider voting for Donald Fuckass Trump is that people have been attacked, fired, discriminated against, and defamed publicly just for saying that they will. Call me crazy but that kind of tells me it would be better if the people responsible for those shenanigans don't get their way for awhile.
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@xenon said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I’m hoping it’s Biden, because he’s super boring. I’m tired of news about the President.
Lol! As a Belgian, I can only agree. I long for the time when I can open the newspaper without Trump being the first thing I see. Even with the Belgian government formation (which was truly a ridiculous circus show), Trump was usually a bigger headline. He certainly made (some) Belgian newspapers great again!
wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:35 last edited by@Nunatax said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
@xenon said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I’m hoping it’s Biden, because he’s super boring. I’m tired of news about the President.
Lol! As a Belgian, I can only agree. I long for the time when I can open the newspaper without Trump being the first thing I see. Even with the Belgian government formation (which was truly a ridiculous circus show), Trump was usually a bigger headline. He certainly made (some) Belgian newspapers great again!
I know you're probably not going to want to hear this, but you might want Trump in office for exactly that reason. He's a perfect scapegoat because he keeps better people from being ousted and making the front page. The outrage isn't going to go away once he's out of office. It's going to move on to other people, many of whom are going to be far less deserving of public ridicule, but they're going to get it anyway and they're not going to have Trump's protections.
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:38 last edited by Doctor Phibes
I'll stop being tired of winning.
I'll be able to say 'The President's a real douchebag' without people telling me I've been brainwashed by the media.
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:39 last edited by
If Mr. Biden wins the stock market will collapse and I'll lose my retirement savings.
But I won't need money because with the riots and looting and wu-flu I won't be able to leave the house anyway.
So it is a wash.
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:45 last edited by
2021 - Year one of Biden’s Presidency - Higher Taxes
2022 - Year one of Harris Presidency - Have you seen the movie “The Purge”?
2023 - Year two of Harris Presidency -
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I'll stop being tired of winning.
I'll be able to say 'The President's a real douchebag' without people telling me I've been brainwashed by the media.
wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:46 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I'll be able to say 'The President's a real douchebag'
You'll be able to say that regardless of who wins.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I'll be able to say 'The President's a real douchebag'
You'll be able to say that regardless of who wins.
wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:50 last edited by@George-K said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
@Doctor-Phibes said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I'll be able to say 'The President's a real douchebag'
You'll be able to say that regardless of who wins.
It's the second part of the sentence that counts.
I once made a joke about Obama being a half-wit on Facebook, and this guy went on and on and on at me saying I was a Bush fanboi and a stupid American, and laughing at my idiocy.
It was quite entertaining.
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:56 last edited by Catseye3
I don't know, TG.
Whoever wins, it'll be one guy in the White House, and he won't be the Wizard of Oz, either real or fake. A lot has to happen for any development to eventuate, and the American President's role will be limited in degrees too variable -- depending on the issue -- to predict.
There's a lot of conflating going on here between 1) what your tribe versus the oppo tribe claims will happen, 2) the degree to which candidates are truthful about their stated intentions (spoiler alert: not very), 3) the degree to which those goals are realistic even with the most honorable of intentions, and 4) how much the voters' votes will affect anything, anyway (spoiler alert: not much).
There is a tendency to make unwarranted predictions about what will happen if one candidate wins over the other. We say, if Biden wins, ABC will happen; if Trump wins, XYZ will happen. I think that is human nature -- we like to believe we have more control over events than we actually do. You can argue that one candidate's victory will guide us in one direction over another, but that's all. We have not nearly the control we think we do, as demonstrated when COVID-19 came booming out of nowhere and splintered our lives. Man plans, God laughs.
For me, this election is a rinse-and-repeat of 2016: Both candidates so drearily bad that all you can do is vote against the worser. For me, that's Trump.
So, people who have a much better grasp than I of this stuff may be able to make credible guesses about what will happen, but I can't begin to guess.
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I don't know, TG.
Whoever wins, it'll be one guy in the White House, and he won't be the Wizard of Oz, either real or fake. A lot has to happen for any development to eventuate, and the American President's role will be limited in degrees too variable -- depending on the issue -- to predict.
There's a lot of conflating going on here between 1) what your tribe versus the oppo tribe claims will happen, 2) the degree to which candidates are truthful about their stated intentions (spoiler alert: not very), 3) the degree to which those goals are realistic even with the most honorable of intentions, and 4) how much the voters' votes will affect anything, anyway (spoiler alert: not much).
There is a tendency to make unwarranted predictions about what will happen if one candidate wins over the other. We say, if Biden wins, ABC will happen; if Trump wins, XYZ will happen. I think that is human nature -- we like to believe we have more control over events than we actually do. You can argue that one candidate's victory will guide us in one direction over another, but that's all. We have not nearly the control we think we do, as demonstrated when COVID-19 came booming out of nowhere and splintered our lives. Man plans, God laughs.
For me, this election is a rinse-and-repeat of 2016: Both candidates so drearily bad that all you can do is vote against the worser. For me, that's Trump.
So, people who have a much better grasp than I of this stuff may be able to make credible guesses about what will happen, but I can't begin to guess.
wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 15:58 last edited by@Catseye3 said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
he won't be the Wizard of Oz, either real or fake
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 16:01 last edited by
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@Nunatax said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
@xenon said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I’m hoping it’s Biden, because he’s super boring. I’m tired of news about the President.
Lol! As a Belgian, I can only agree. I long for the time when I can open the newspaper without Trump being the first thing I see. Even with the Belgian government formation (which was truly a ridiculous circus show), Trump was usually a bigger headline. He certainly made (some) Belgian newspapers great again!
I know you're probably not going to want to hear this, but you might want Trump in office for exactly that reason. He's a perfect scapegoat because he keeps better people from being ousted and making the front page. The outrage isn't going to go away once he's out of office. It's going to move on to other people, many of whom are going to be far less deserving of public ridicule, but they're going to get it anyway and they're not going to have Trump's protections.
wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 16:05 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
@Nunatax said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
@xenon said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I’m hoping it’s Biden, because he’s super boring. I’m tired of news about the President.
Lol! As a Belgian, I can only agree. I long for the time when I can open the newspaper without Trump being the first thing I see. Even with the Belgian government formation (which was truly a ridiculous circus show), Trump was usually a bigger headline. He certainly made (some) Belgian newspapers great again!
I know you're probably not going to want to hear this, but you might want Trump in office for exactly that reason. He's a perfect scapegoat because he keeps better people from being ousted and making the front page. The outrage isn't going to go away once he's out of office. It's going to move on to other people, many of whom are going to be far less deserving of public ridicule, but they're going to get it anyway and they're not going to have Trump's protections.
If that keeps happening to the same extent with others as it’s been happening with Trump for the past years, I guess I’ll just stop reading newspapers altogether. It’s getting boring and tiresome.
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wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 16:12 last edited by
@Doctor-Phibes said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
Since you bring it up, let's look at that, okay?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
Since you bring it up, let's look at that, okay?
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