How Will Your Life Change if..........
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I don't know, TG.
Whoever wins, it'll be one guy in the White House, and he won't be the Wizard of Oz, either real or fake. A lot has to happen for any development to eventuate, and the American President's role will be limited in degrees too variable -- depending on the issue -- to predict.
There's a lot of conflating going on here between 1) what your tribe versus the oppo tribe claims will happen, 2) the degree to which candidates are truthful about their stated intentions (spoiler alert: not very), 3) the degree to which those goals are realistic even with the most honorable of intentions, and 4) how much the voters' votes will affect anything, anyway (spoiler alert: not much).
There is a tendency to make unwarranted predictions about what will happen if one candidate wins over the other. We say, if Biden wins, ABC will happen; if Trump wins, XYZ will happen. I think that is human nature -- we like to believe we have more control over events than we actually do. You can argue that one candidate's victory will guide us in one direction over another, but that's all. We have not nearly the control we think we do, as demonstrated when COVID-19 came booming out of nowhere and splintered our lives. Man plans, God laughs.
For me, this election is a rinse-and-repeat of 2016: Both candidates so drearily bad that all you can do is vote against the worser. For me, that's Trump.
So, people who have a much better grasp than I of this stuff may be able to make credible guesses about what will happen, but I can't begin to guess.
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@Nunatax said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
@xenon said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I’m hoping it’s Biden, because he’s super boring. I’m tired of news about the President.
Lol! As a Belgian, I can only agree. I long for the time when I can open the newspaper without Trump being the first thing I see. Even with the Belgian government formation (which was truly a ridiculous circus show), Trump was usually a bigger headline. He certainly made (some) Belgian newspapers great again!
I know you're probably not going to want to hear this, but you might want Trump in office for exactly that reason. He's a perfect scapegoat because he keeps better people from being ousted and making the front page. The outrage isn't going to go away once he's out of office. It's going to move on to other people, many of whom are going to be far less deserving of public ridicule, but they're going to get it anyway and they're not going to have Trump's protections.
@Aqua-Letifer said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
@Nunatax said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
@xenon said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
I’m hoping it’s Biden, because he’s super boring. I’m tired of news about the President.
Lol! As a Belgian, I can only agree. I long for the time when I can open the newspaper without Trump being the first thing I see. Even with the Belgian government formation (which was truly a ridiculous circus show), Trump was usually a bigger headline. He certainly made (some) Belgian newspapers great again!
I know you're probably not going to want to hear this, but you might want Trump in office for exactly that reason. He's a perfect scapegoat because he keeps better people from being ousted and making the front page. The outrage isn't going to go away once he's out of office. It's going to move on to other people, many of whom are going to be far less deserving of public ridicule, but they're going to get it anyway and they're not going to have Trump's protections.
If that keeps happening to the same extent with others as it’s been happening with Trump for the past years, I guess I’ll just stop reading newspapers altogether. It’s getting boring and tiresome.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
Since you bring it up, let's look at that, okay?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
Since you bring it up, let's look at that, okay?
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Dead certainties if Biden is elected...
- My taxes will go up.
- My Second Amendment rights will be infringed.
- My slide into second class citizen - since I am Caucasian - will be accelerated.
- My state's economy will be severely impacted as Biden chokes down the oil and gas industry.
- My next car will cost a good bit more, as Biden tightens fuel standards.
- Most importantly, the country's laws will continue a leftist shift, as Biden nominated activist judges to the bench.
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Probably about half the people on this forum will be unhappy on US election night as their preferred candidate will not have won.
So, my question is:
If your preferred candidate does not win, how do you REALISTICALLY think that your life will change?
Maybe look two years down the road. I am looking for things that you think will "materially" change, not just mental.
Because, I am sure a lot of people will respond:
"If President Trump is re-elected, the US will go down the path of dictators, no rights for immigrants or gay people, etc."
"If VP Biden is elected, the US will become communist and there will be anarchy in the streets"For me, I cannot see anything that will change that will impact me. For me, somewhat unique in being outside the US, but in talking to my friends back in the US from both sides, pretty much most of the change they say will be more mental than actual.
How about you guys? How will your life change?
@taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
How about you guys? How will your life change?
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I am worried I will have to work longer if my retirement savings go in the toilet.
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I am worried that in my last 20-30 years on this earth I will have to go to re-education camp.
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@taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
How about you guys? How will your life change?
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I am worried I will have to work longer if my retirement savings go in the toilet.
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I am worried that in my last 20-30 years on this earth I will have to go to re-education camp.
@Kincaid I know history is not a prediction of the future, but why do you think #1 is worrying ? There was an interesting discussion a week or so ago on this. My statement was that historically, on average, measures of the economy did not show a major difference between Presidents. In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.
The US system seems to move Presdients to the center.
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There's no way they'll bother re-educating Kincaid at his age. It's the soylent green farms for him.
I was only joking
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@Kincaid I know history is not a prediction of the future, but why do you think #1 is worrying ? There was an interesting discussion a week or so ago on this. My statement was that historically, on average, measures of the economy did not show a major difference between Presidents. In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.
The US system seems to move Presdients to the center.
@taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.
Do you know why? Hint : it's not because a Democrat got in office...
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@taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.
Do you know why? Hint : it's not because a Democrat got in office...
@Larry said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
@taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.
Do you know why? Hint : it's not because a Democrat got in office...
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There's no way they'll bother re-educating Kincaid at his age. It's the soylent green farms for him.
@Doctor-Phibes said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
There's no way they'll bother re-educating Kincaid at his age. It's the soylent green farms for him.
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@Kincaid I know history is not a prediction of the future, but why do you think #1 is worrying ? There was an interesting discussion a week or so ago on this. My statement was that historically, on average, measures of the economy did not show a major difference between Presidents. In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.
The US system seems to move Presdients to the center.
@taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:
@Kincaid I know history is not a prediction of the future, but why do you think #1 is worrying ? There was an interesting discussion a week or so ago on this. My statement was that historically, on average, measures of the economy did not show a major difference between Presidents. In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.
The US system seems to move Presdients to the center.
The bear markets and the great recession might not care what president is at the helm, but I am in a place where if another 2008 followed by another "Obama" recovery happened I would be living very poor indeed in 10 years. IIRC, it took about 6 or 8 years for my 401k to get back to where it was in 2008 after it was cut in half or worse.
Also, it seems to me the timing has just been unlucky for Republican Presidents. If 9/11 had happened in the last year of Clinton's presidency, if the dot.com boom had ramped up a couple years later, if Clinton's policies hadn't overheated the housing market setting up the 2008 fall...
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@Kincaid , my guy at Fidelity says that, in the long run, the markets don't care about who's in the office. What they care about is 1) stability, 2) predictability.
If they can know what's going to happen, they can deal with it. If they can't predict, they hope it stays the same.
Don't know if that's totally true or not, but it makes sense.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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We're still paying for Iraq,.
Some people paid quite a bit more, obviously.
