Who cares if the signatures match?
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Makes sense to have a verification process rather than just discarding the ballot.
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By the way, the GOP really needs a national strategy besides voter suppression. Though it can be effective in the short term it seems not very sustainable.
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@jon-nyc said in Who cares if the signatures match?:
By the way, the GOP really needs a national strategy besides voter suppression. Though it can be effective in the short term it seems not very sustainable.
To be fair, they do have a back-up plan. Claiming the results are completely invalid due to fraud.
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And splitting states to create more rural ones.
But really, they need to spend the energy they now use on maintaining minority rule and channel it into creating actual majorities.
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And fraud doesn't matter to your ilk, as long as you obtain and maintain power.
Ok.
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@Jolly said in Who cares if the signatures match?:
And fraud doesn't matter to your ilk, as long as you obtain and maintain power.
Ok.
I think that fraud is terrible and should be eliminated and charged but to think that one party is so much better and would never commit fraud while the other party is evil and will commit fraud is kind of funny.
I honestly dont think that Republics are "morally" better than Democrats and opposite is true also. Like the COVID virus, fraud and unfairness in politics does not follow just one party. LOL
Yes, for sure, stop fraud, but as Jon said, if that is the background a party is using as an excuse if they lose, they need to re-think.
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@taiwan_girl said in Who cares if the signatures match?:
@Jolly said in Who cares if the signatures match?:
And fraud doesn't matter to your ilk, as long as you obtain and maintain power.
Ok.
I think that fraud is terrible and should be eliminated and charged but to think that one party is so much better and would never commit fraud while the other party is evil and will commit fraud is kind of funny.
I honestly dont think that Republics are "morally" better than Democrats and opposite is true also. Like the COVID virus, fraud and unfairness in politics does not follow just one party. LOL
Yes, for sure, stop fraud, but as Jon said, if that is the background a party is using as an excuse if they lose, they need to re-think.
Confine your fence-sitting to only this example...If signatures do not match - and renember, a signature has no party affiliation - should a ballot be rejected?
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Now, for the second question, since we are talking about ballots...
Citing corona virus concerns, some states are consolidating voting locations on election day. This can turn some shorter waits, into very long waits.
Is this voter suppression?
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@Jolly said in Who cares if the signatures match?:
... If signatures do not match - and renember, a signature has no party affiliation - should a ballot be rejected?
Not by itself. If signature not matching is the only issue with a ballot, then make the ballot provisional pending verification. Imagine a soldier signed his initial voter registration with his right hand, then later got his right hand blown up by an IED at an overseas deployment just before an election. That soldier cannot sign his vote-by-mail ballot with his right hand anymore. His signature with his left hand is not going to match his original voter registration signature signed with his right hand. You are not going to reject the ballot out of hand. The right thing to do is to have a process to verify the ballot later.
“Soldier with a blown up right hand” is just one example. Other diseases, muscle atrophies, stroke, accidents, injuries, etc. that can affect one’s ability to execute a signature can happen to anyone. You will not disenfranchise them just because they get a stroke or suffer a hand injury just before an election. Making the ballots with signature matching issue provisional and have a process in place to verify them later is the right thing to do.
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I vote in person and notice they have my signature in a book, which they match against my signature on the spot. I sometimes worry that my own signature isn’t really stable year to year since I almost never really sign anything. I basically draw a line across credit card slips.
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@Axtremus said in Who cares if the signatures match?:
@Jolly said in Who cares if the signatures match?:
... If signatures do not match - and renember, a signature has no party affiliation - should a ballot be rejected?
Not by itself. If signature not matching is the only issue with a ballot, then make the ballot provisional pending verification. Imagine a soldier signed his initial voter registration with his right hand, then later got his right hand blown up by an IED at an overseas deployment just before an election. That soldier cannot sign his vote-by-mail ballot with his right hand anymore. His signature with his left hand is not going to match his original voter registration signature signed with his right hand. You are not going to reject the ballot out of hand. The right thing to do is to have a process to verify the ballot later.
“Soldier with a blown up right hand” is just one example. Other diseases, muscle atrophies, stroke, accidents, injuries, etc. that can affect one’s ability to execute a signature can happen to anyone. You will not disenfranchise them just because they get a stroke or suffer a hand injury just before an election. Making the ballots with signature matching issue provisional and have a process in place to verify them later is the right thing to do.
Last election, they discarded 26,000 ballots. I'm guessing they are using some type of automatic screening system and then going to Mark I eyeballs. Could you imagine a contested 40,000 or 50,000 ballots over signatures after a Presidential election?
Florida, Florida, Florida.
Simplify this. Make people show up and vote.
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