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Up 11.9%

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  • KlausK Offline
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    I don't know whether there is any real data on this yet, but I have a lot of anecdotal evidence that all kinds of treatments are delayed due to COVID. Not necessarily because of the doctor/hospital, but also because older folks are too scared to go to the hospital in these times.

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      Mrs. George's shoulder replacement was delayed for about 2 months, by the hospital.

      A lot of places around here explicitly said, "We're opening up to elective stuff." That's not a patient choice, it's an institutional one.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Ok, I’m sure the modeling is fine on the odds but how many actual human beings have delayed screening > 12 months due to Covid? So far the number is precisely zero.

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        @jon-nyc said in Up 11.9%:

        Ok, I’m sure the modeling is fine on the odds but how many actual human beings have delayed screening > 12 months due to Covid? So far the number is precisely zero.

        No elective colonoscopies were done around here for three months or maybe a bit longer. Occult blood testing does not always pick up early stage colorectal cancer.

        I also wonder what symptoms you would have to meet, to go from an elective procedure, to a "we have to do this now". I know a significant amount of blood in the stool and a crit drop would trigger that, but I don't have a clue on where the middle ground is...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • KlausK Klaus

          I don't know whether there is any real data on this yet, but I have a lot of anecdotal evidence that all kinds of treatments are delayed due to COVID. Not necessarily because of the doctor/hospital, but also because older folks are too scared to go to the hospital in these times.

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          jon-nyc
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          @Klaus said in Up 11.9%:

          I don't know whether there is any real data on this yet, but I have a lot of anecdotal evidence that all kinds of treatments are delayed due to COVID. Not necessarily because of the doctor/hospital, but also because older folks are too scared to go to the hospital in these times.

          Of course. But the paper described modeling that would show a 12mo+ delay would lead to an 11.9% increase in deaths at the 5 year mark. Then the headline makes it sound like it already happened.

          Exactly zero people have delayed diagnosis over a year for a virus that the west started taking seriously only in March.

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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          • MikM Away
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            MFR's 'scope was put off several months. Of course she was 10 years overdue, so...

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • MikM Mik

              MFR's 'scope was put off several months. Of course she was 10 years overdue, so...

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              Mrs. Mark was fast tracked for a colonoscopy in May/June due to her family history, time since last colonoscopy and that she had some bleeding.

              Thankfully it was not cancer.

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              • markM mark

                Mrs. Mark was fast tracked for a colonoscopy in May/June due to her family history, time since last colonoscopy and that she had some bleeding.

                Thankfully it was not cancer.

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                @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

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                  @taiwan_girl said in Up 11.9%:

                  @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

                  Thanks for asking. I meant to do an update as the Gabapentin seems to be working at a certain level. She no longer has pain when she rolls over in bed. She was having an issue with what felt like a pinched nerve whenever she would twist a certain way at her hip. It would persist for a few minutes then dissipate. That is now all gone.

                  She is calling her doc today to let him know. This development is less than a week old so, she wanted to make sure it wasn't a temporary situation, unrelated to the drugs effectiveness.

                  So, some positive news on that front. The tingling, numbness and lack of coordination and strength is still persistent.

                  I think the doc will up her dosage and see what happens. No side effects so far, so that is good.

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                    @taiwan_girl said in Up 11.9%:

                    @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

                    Thanks for asking. I meant to do an update as the Gabapentin seems to be working at a certain level. She no longer has pain when she rolls over in bed. She was having an issue with what felt like a pinched nerve whenever she would twist a certain way at her hip. It would persist for a few minutes then dissipate. That is now all gone.

                    She is calling her doc today to let him know. This development is less than a week old so, she wanted to make sure it wasn't a temporary situation, unrelated to the drugs effectiveness.

                    So, some positive news on that front. The tingling, numbness and lack of coordination and strength is still persistent.

                    I think the doc will up her dosage and see what happens. No side effects so far, so that is good.

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                    @mark 👍

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                      @taiwan_girl said in Up 11.9%:

                      @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

                      Thanks for asking. I meant to do an update as the Gabapentin seems to be working at a certain level. She no longer has pain when she rolls over in bed. She was having an issue with what felt like a pinched nerve whenever she would twist a certain way at her hip. It would persist for a few minutes then dissipate. That is now all gone.

                      She is calling her doc today to let him know. This development is less than a week old so, she wanted to make sure it wasn't a temporary situation, unrelated to the drugs effectiveness.

                      So, some positive news on that front. The tingling, numbness and lack of coordination and strength is still persistent.

                      I think the doc will up her dosage and see what happens. No side effects so far, so that is good.

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                      @mark said in Up 11.9%:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Up 11.9%:

                      @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

                      Thanks for asking. I meant to do an update as the Gabapentin seems to be working at a certain level. She no longer has pain when she rolls over in bed. She was having an issue with what felt like a pinched nerve whenever she would twist a certain way at her hip. It would persist for a few minutes then dissipate. That is now all gone.

                      She is calling her doc today to let him know. This development is less than a week old so, she wanted to make sure it wasn't a temporary situation, unrelated to the drugs effectiveness.

                      So, some positive news on that front. The tingling, numbness and lack of coordination and strength is still persistent.

                      I think the doc will up her dosage and see what happens. No side effects so far, so that is good.

                      That's very good to hear. I suspect the medicine is working. I'm sure they'll use the lowest dosage that's effective.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        Thanks for the update, Mark. Give her a hug from me!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Wonderful news, Mark! I hope it continues to improve for her.

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