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  • KlausK Offline
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    I don't know whether there is any real data on this yet, but I have a lot of anecdotal evidence that all kinds of treatments are delayed due to COVID. Not necessarily because of the doctor/hospital, but also because older folks are too scared to go to the hospital in these times.

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      Mrs. George's shoulder replacement was delayed for about 2 months, by the hospital.

      A lot of places around here explicitly said, "We're opening up to elective stuff." That's not a patient choice, it's an institutional one.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Ok, I’m sure the modeling is fine on the odds but how many actual human beings have delayed screening > 12 months due to Covid? So far the number is precisely zero.

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        @jon-nyc said in Up 11.9%:

        Ok, I’m sure the modeling is fine on the odds but how many actual human beings have delayed screening > 12 months due to Covid? So far the number is precisely zero.

        No elective colonoscopies were done around here for three months or maybe a bit longer. Occult blood testing does not always pick up early stage colorectal cancer.

        I also wonder what symptoms you would have to meet, to go from an elective procedure, to a "we have to do this now". I know a significant amount of blood in the stool and a crit drop would trigger that, but I don't have a clue on where the middle ground is...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • KlausK Klaus

          I don't know whether there is any real data on this yet, but I have a lot of anecdotal evidence that all kinds of treatments are delayed due to COVID. Not necessarily because of the doctor/hospital, but also because older folks are too scared to go to the hospital in these times.

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          @Klaus said in Up 11.9%:

          I don't know whether there is any real data on this yet, but I have a lot of anecdotal evidence that all kinds of treatments are delayed due to COVID. Not necessarily because of the doctor/hospital, but also because older folks are too scared to go to the hospital in these times.

          Of course. But the paper described modeling that would show a 12mo+ delay would lead to an 11.9% increase in deaths at the 5 year mark. Then the headline makes it sound like it already happened.

          Exactly zero people have delayed diagnosis over a year for a virus that the west started taking seriously only in March.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • MikM Away
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            MFR's 'scope was put off several months. Of course she was 10 years overdue, so...

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              MFR's 'scope was put off several months. Of course she was 10 years overdue, so...

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              Mrs. Mark was fast tracked for a colonoscopy in May/June due to her family history, time since last colonoscopy and that she had some bleeding.

              Thankfully it was not cancer.

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              • markM mark

                Mrs. Mark was fast tracked for a colonoscopy in May/June due to her family history, time since last colonoscopy and that she had some bleeding.

                Thankfully it was not cancer.

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                @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

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                  @taiwan_girl said in Up 11.9%:

                  @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

                  Thanks for asking. I meant to do an update as the Gabapentin seems to be working at a certain level. She no longer has pain when she rolls over in bed. She was having an issue with what felt like a pinched nerve whenever she would twist a certain way at her hip. It would persist for a few minutes then dissipate. That is now all gone.

                  She is calling her doc today to let him know. This development is less than a week old so, she wanted to make sure it wasn't a temporary situation, unrelated to the drugs effectiveness.

                  So, some positive news on that front. The tingling, numbness and lack of coordination and strength is still persistent.

                  I think the doc will up her dosage and see what happens. No side effects so far, so that is good.

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                    @taiwan_girl said in Up 11.9%:

                    @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

                    Thanks for asking. I meant to do an update as the Gabapentin seems to be working at a certain level. She no longer has pain when she rolls over in bed. She was having an issue with what felt like a pinched nerve whenever she would twist a certain way at her hip. It would persist for a few minutes then dissipate. That is now all gone.

                    She is calling her doc today to let him know. This development is less than a week old so, she wanted to make sure it wasn't a temporary situation, unrelated to the drugs effectiveness.

                    So, some positive news on that front. The tingling, numbness and lack of coordination and strength is still persistent.

                    I think the doc will up her dosage and see what happens. No side effects so far, so that is good.

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                    @mark 👍

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                      @taiwan_girl said in Up 11.9%:

                      @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

                      Thanks for asking. I meant to do an update as the Gabapentin seems to be working at a certain level. She no longer has pain when she rolls over in bed. She was having an issue with what felt like a pinched nerve whenever she would twist a certain way at her hip. It would persist for a few minutes then dissipate. That is now all gone.

                      She is calling her doc today to let him know. This development is less than a week old so, she wanted to make sure it wasn't a temporary situation, unrelated to the drugs effectiveness.

                      So, some positive news on that front. The tingling, numbness and lack of coordination and strength is still persistent.

                      I think the doc will up her dosage and see what happens. No side effects so far, so that is good.

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                      @mark said in Up 11.9%:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Up 11.9%:

                      @mark How is she feeling? Has her symptoms she was having on her side gotten better?

                      Thanks for asking. I meant to do an update as the Gabapentin seems to be working at a certain level. She no longer has pain when she rolls over in bed. She was having an issue with what felt like a pinched nerve whenever she would twist a certain way at her hip. It would persist for a few minutes then dissipate. That is now all gone.

                      She is calling her doc today to let him know. This development is less than a week old so, she wanted to make sure it wasn't a temporary situation, unrelated to the drugs effectiveness.

                      So, some positive news on that front. The tingling, numbness and lack of coordination and strength is still persistent.

                      I think the doc will up her dosage and see what happens. No side effects so far, so that is good.

                      That's very good to hear. I suspect the medicine is working. I'm sure they'll use the lowest dosage that's effective.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        Thanks for the update, Mark. Give her a hug from me!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Wonderful news, Mark! I hope it continues to improve for her.

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