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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by Jolly
    #465

    In some people.

    I think that's what it makes this disease so hard to understand...With most disease states, there are typical symptoms that are universal. Maybe not all, but common partials.

    This virus does the damndest things. Two people, similar genetic make-up, similar environments. Dissimilar symptoms. It's frustrating for the patient and frustrating for the healthcare providers.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      #466

      @jolly said in Symptoms:

      This virus does the damndest things. Two people, similar genetic make-up, similar environments. Dissimilar symptoms. It's frustrating for the patient and frustrating for the healthcare providers.

      About a dozen years ago, I was training for a marathon - and in great shape. I came down with a virus about a week before the marathon. I went from being able to run 20+ miles at a time to not being able to walk more than a couple hundred feet. For months, my wife would drive me to work - leave me at the door. I only had to walk about 150 feet to my office. I'd get to my office and have to sit for half an hour of rest before I was capable of doing anything. It took a long while to recover. I remember needing to go to a pharmacy which was about 4 doors down from my building. I took the elevator down to the street, walked to the front of the building - and knew I'd never make it to the pharmacy and back - so I returned to my office.

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      • kluursK kluurs

        @jolly said in Symptoms:

        This virus does the damndest things. Two people, similar genetic make-up, similar environments. Dissimilar symptoms. It's frustrating for the patient and frustrating for the healthcare providers.

        About a dozen years ago, I was training for a marathon - and in great shape. I came down with a virus about a week before the marathon. I went from being able to run 20+ miles at a time to not being able to walk more than a couple hundred feet. For months, my wife would drive me to work - leave me at the door. I only had to walk about 150 feet to my office. I'd get to my office and have to sit for half an hour of rest before I was capable of doing anything. It took a long while to recover. I remember needing to go to a pharmacy which was about 4 doors down from my building. I took the elevator down to the street, walked to the front of the building - and knew I'd never make it to the pharmacy and back - so I returned to my office.

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        Loki
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        #467

        @kluurs said in Symptoms:

        @jolly said in Symptoms:

        This virus does the damndest things. Two people, similar genetic make-up, similar environments. Dissimilar symptoms. It's frustrating for the patient and frustrating for the healthcare providers.

        About a dozen years ago, I was training for a marathon - and in great shape. I came down with a virus about a week before the marathon. I went from being able to run 20+ miles at a time to not being able to walk more than a couple hundred feet. For months, my wife would drive me to work - leave me at the door. I only had to walk about 150 feet to my office. I'd get to my office and have to sit for half an hour of rest before I was capable of doing anything. It took a long while to recover. I remember needing to go to a pharmacy which was about 4 doors down from my building. I took the elevator down to the street, walked to the front of the building - and knew I'd never make it to the pharmacy and back - so I returned to my office.

        That was my Lyme Disease experience for a month. 20 mile runs to nothing.

        Doxycycline was magic but it took all thirty days. And then it took months to get back to where I had been running.

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        • RainmanR Offline
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          Rainman
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          #468

          On Bret Weinstein's podcast yesterday, they spent some time talking about the medication Ivermectin. Low cost, known for a long time, free in 19 African countries. They were pissed that Twitter pulled all links to the article.

          Ivermectin. Weinstein is no dummy, nor is his wife Heather. Both hold Ph.D.'s in biology. Everything is politicized, and then follow the money if you can, and try to combine the two while the media ignores all, and social media is policed on what is allowed to be covered. Jesus.

          Ivermectin. Anybody heard of it, especially you docs? Hope I spelled it right.

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          • RainmanR Rainman

            On Bret Weinstein's podcast yesterday, they spent some time talking about the medication Ivermectin. Low cost, known for a long time, free in 19 African countries. They were pissed that Twitter pulled all links to the article.

            Ivermectin. Weinstein is no dummy, nor is his wife Heather. Both hold Ph.D.'s in biology. Everything is politicized, and then follow the money if you can, and try to combine the two while the media ignores all, and social media is policed on what is allowed to be covered. Jesus.

            Ivermectin. Anybody heard of it, especially you docs? Hope I spelled it right.

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            jodi
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            #469

            @rainman it’s a horse dewormer, very common in the veterinary/ horse world. My horse gets it orally a couple of times a year.

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            • RainmanR Rainman

              On Bret Weinstein's podcast yesterday, they spent some time talking about the medication Ivermectin. Low cost, known for a long time, free in 19 African countries. They were pissed that Twitter pulled all links to the article.

              Ivermectin. Weinstein is no dummy, nor is his wife Heather. Both hold Ph.D.'s in biology. Everything is politicized, and then follow the money if you can, and try to combine the two while the media ignores all, and social media is policed on what is allowed to be covered. Jesus.

              Ivermectin. Anybody heard of it, especially you docs? Hope I spelled it right.

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              jodi
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              @rainman based on what I just read, it’s approved for use in humans for external parasites like head lice. It’s used for internal parasites (worms and bots) in horses. Possible Human side effects :

              Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis). Laboratory test abnormalities include decrease in white cell count and elevated liver tests.

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              • jodiJ jodi

                @rainman based on what I just read, it’s approved for use in humans for external parasites like head lice. It’s used for internal parasites (worms and bots) in horses. Possible Human side effects :

                Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis). Laboratory test abnormalities include decrease in white cell count and elevated liver tests.

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                Rainman
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                @jodi said in Symptoms:

                @rainman based on what I just read, it’s approved for use in humans for external parasites like head lice. It’s used for internal parasites (worms and bots) in horses. Possible Human side effects :

                Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis). Laboratory test abnormalities include decrease in white cell count and elevated liver tests.

                So in other words, perfect!
                Thanks, Jodi. I wish I could find the link to the article. I'll try.

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                • RainmanR Rainman

                  On Bret Weinstein's podcast yesterday, they spent some time talking about the medication Ivermectin. Low cost, known for a long time, free in 19 African countries. They were pissed that Twitter pulled all links to the article.

                  Ivermectin. Weinstein is no dummy, nor is his wife Heather. Both hold Ph.D.'s in biology. Everything is politicized, and then follow the money if you can, and try to combine the two while the media ignores all, and social media is policed on what is allowed to be covered. Jesus.

                  Ivermectin. Anybody heard of it, especially you docs? Hope I spelled it right.

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                  Jolly
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                  #472

                  @rainman said in Symptoms:

                  On Bret Weinstein's podcast yesterday, they spent some time talking about the medication Ivermectin. Low cost, known for a long time, free in 19 African countries. They were pissed that Twitter pulled all links to the article.

                  Ivermectin. Weinstein is no dummy, nor is his wife Heather. Both hold Ph.D.'s in biology. Everything is politicized, and then follow the money if you can, and try to combine the two while the media ignores all, and social media is policed on what is allowed to be covered. Jesus.

                  Ivermectin. Anybody heard of it, especially you docs? Hope I spelled it right.

                  The treatment has been talked about for two or three months, at least.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • RainmanR Offline
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                    Rainman
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #473

                    @jolly said in Symptoms:

                    Ivermectin

                    "Paul Marik, MD, FCCM, FCCP, founder of the alliance and a professor and chief of the division of pulmonary and critical care medicine at Eastern Virginia Medical School, said that ivermectin “is a safe drug that is exceedingly cheap.”
                    "He added that “what is truly remarkable — this was a gift to us — ivermectin has high activity against COVID-19.”

                    "In a press conference, researchers said that ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug that has been available for approximately 40 years and previously earned researchers a Nobel Prize.

                    "Ivermectin is a key factor in the alliance’s I-MASK+ protocol for prophylaxis and early treatment of outpatients with COVID-19."

                    https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20201208/this-was-a-gift-to-us-ivermectin-effective-for-covid19-prophylaxis-treatment

                    I won't derail this thread. If there is interest, it could be a new thread.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #474

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #475

                        Used your daughter as an example this past week...On another board in a different universe, one of the members is a pastor in SW Mississippi. He had a pretty good round with COVID about four or five months ago. Every time he thinks he's doing well enough to do some strenuous work in his garden or around the house, he gets knocked back down. Last time was bad enough for a steroid shot and a Z-pack.

                        He can preach. He can pastor. He just can't do the physical work he would like to do. He's past the point of frustrated.

                        I just reminded him, there are lots of people in the same boat. Some people that are much younger and were pretty healthy until COVID came along. That have the same frustrations. That find some help in talking with other long-haulers within their support group.

                        People who occasionally have to be reminded to take it one day at a time...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          taiwan_girl
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                          @george-k will continue to send positive thoughts.

                          @LuFins-Dad hownisnyour son?

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            @george-k will continue to send positive thoughts.

                            @LuFins-Dad hownisnyour son?

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            @taiwan_girl said in Symptoms:

                            @george-k will continue to send positive thoughts.

                            @LuFins-Dad hownisnyour son?

                            He’s an annoying man/child. Thanks for asking!

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @taiwan_girl said in Symptoms:

                              @george-k will continue to send positive thoughts.

                              @LuFins-Dad hownisnyour son?

                              He’s an annoying man/child. Thanks for asking!

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                              taiwan_girl
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                              @lufins-dad said in Symptoms:

                              @taiwan_girl said in Symptoms:

                              @george-k will continue to send positive thoughts.

                              @LuFins-Dad hownisnyour son?

                              He’s an annoying man/child. Thanks for asking!

                              555

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                #479

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • markM Offline
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                                  mark
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                                  #480

                                  Fucking covid is right. So sorry that she continues to suffer.

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
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                                    #481

                                    Damn, I am so sorry she has had such a hard time. Makes me really mad at the folks who keep saying '99.9% survive it'.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #482

                                      Wow!! That is a such a tough path she has been on.

                                      I am not sure that my positive thoughts will help, but I will keep sending them!!!

                                      😍

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                                        jodi
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                                        #483

                                        Word finding. Something that I feel is more difficult for me than it was before we got sick. And sometimes the wrong word comes out. I keep brushing it off as age, but then I read about the long hauler symptoms and I wonder. More migraines than before too. And losing track off/forgetting things I just did. (Like where I put stuff). Could be unrelated.

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                                          brenda
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                                          I've heard of the brain fog problem, as well as what D2 and Jodi describe. How frustrating this all is, and worrisome in many ways. It makes one question whether other thought processes are impared, and if one should delay making big decisions for a long period. Let's hope these are temporary effects that eventually will disappear, but in the meantime, it's both disturbing and annoying.

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