Symptoms

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in Symptoms:

I’m hesitant to give him DayQuil because it would bring down the temp and the temperature is helping his immune system..

D2's doc said don't treat the fever. It's one of the few defenses we have against the virus. Of course, there's an upper limit where the fever itself is harmful. But that's pretty high.

I agree with that.

[LuFins Dad]

Any good nasal decongestant without a fever reducer?

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in Symptoms:

Any good nasal decongestant without a fever reducer?

Sudafed?

[jon-nyc]

Jagermeister?

[George K]

[LuFins Dad]

I bet the zinc has been part of the problem...There are a lot of stories about people losing their smell or taste from Zicam...

[George K]

[George K]

Dalton is Trav's oldest son - he's 19. Cade is son #2 - he's 17. There's a third kid - Blake, who's about 12, iirc.

[Jolly]

Sounds to me like the "not live in fear" Christians. There's a good many of them.

They're ignant.

[Mik]

There's a deep, dark chasm between 'don't live in fear, God will provide' and 'don't live in fear, but take reasonable precautions'.

What was that old saw about God helping those who help themselves?

[George K]

[Mik]

She has a strangely familiar sense of humor.

Humor is good.

[LuFins Dad]

Has Trav gotten his results yet?

I’ve been on hold for 45 minutes trying to Luke scheduled for a test and a video consultation.

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in Symptoms:

Has Trav gotten his results yet?

Yup. Got them last night - he's positive.

The interesting question is where did he get it? D2 has been negative since the end of October.

How's Luke doing?

[George K]

@Mik said in Symptoms:

She has a strangely familiar sense of humor.
Humor is good.

No one I've ever known uses the "c word" with the relish that she does, particularly when applied to men.

"God, Dad, Jeremy's SUCH a cunt."

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in Symptoms:

@LuFins-Dad said in Symptoms:

Has Trav gotten his results yet?

Yup. Got them last night - he's positive.

The interesting question is where did he get it? D2 has been negative since the end of October.

How's Luke doing?

Same... Slightly elevated temperature, a bit less congestion, taste and smell are greatly reduced. I had a little fun with that by hiding “surprises” in his meals... Foods that he doesn’t like and refuses to eat...Even added an olive smoothie to his salad dressing without him knowing.

We have a Doctor consultation at 3:30 (spent an hour on hold trying to reach the office, they are swamped with calls). I decided to go that route instead of just scheduling a test since my Doctor is set up for the 1 hour test. Even if they can’t get him in until Tuesday for it, we’ll get the results sooner than going to one of the drugstores this morning.

We are all supercharging our Vitamin D and C levels, and I have him taking 4 -5 of the zinc lozenges per day.

He has his own restroom and is primarily spending his time in his bedroom or in the computer room, kitchen is off limits, and if he does need to talk with us for a bit we are all masked. Still feels like the closing the bar door after the cows left, though. He was contagious for 2-3 days before his first symptom...

[Jolly]

@Mik said in Symptoms:

There's a deep, dark chasm between 'don't live in fear, God will provide' and 'don't live in fear, but take reasonable precautions'.

What was that old saw about God helping those who help themselves?

You can look it up, because I'm going from memory, but I think the word "prudent" is mentioned in the Bible a half-dozen times...

[Ivorythumper]

@LuFins-Dad said in Symptoms:

Should we treat the symptoms? He has an elevated temperature but below 100 (99.5) but his congestion is worse. I’m hesitant to give him DayQuil because it would bring down the temp and the temperature is helping his immune system... If it was a cold, I wouldn’t hesitate since the immune system will catch up in a day or two, but with this crap I want to give it every chance to do it’s thing... Thoughts?

MS is finally better, but still all neg tests.

Her docs said treat the symptoms -- which was for her steroids to open the chest and antibiotics to boost against secondary infection and pneumonia.

She's back to work, but still no sense of taste or smell. Her covid FB group (perhaps the same as D2) is a wealth of anecdotal but very consistent information about multi-systemic symptoms and treatments and effects. Including kidney stones, dry and cracked lips and tongue, and "icy - hot" feelings in her mouth, throat, and upper shoulders, all of which MS had.

Some people after 8 months haven't gotten their sense of taste or smell back. One H1N1 survivor never got her sense of smell and taste back from 2009. Ugh.

LD -- the wisdom is to treat it as if -- it took a couple of different courses of antibiotics and a superdose of short term steroid to clear up MS. The most important thing seems to be to keep him where he doesn't need to go to the hospital for ventilation, because that's a whole other problem. Get a doc involved ASAP -- call in favors -- they don't want to see you in their office, but I was able to coordinate via telehealth with her local PCP, her immunologist, and our old doc in Phx (a dear friend), to get them all on the same page, and it worked.

Prayers for your sons and the whole family.

[LuFins Dad]

Thanks for the prayers and the info. I honestly don’t expect Lucas to get to the point of needing anything other than some slight symptomatic relief. He really appears to following the typical teenage scenario... Very mild symptoms, no cough, a little congestion, mild fever... The only big red flag is the loss of smell and taste. There’s every reason to hope he’ll be back to normal this weekend and back to work the next...

It’s Karla that I am most concerned about in all this. If she gets it then this household is screwed, lol.

[Loki]

George- the comment “that’s his mom in his ear” was amazing. If people only understood where their point of view was coming from.