Alito and Thomas have their sights set on Obergefell
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'ruinous consequences for religious liberty.'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/thomas-alito-kim-davis-obergefell-decision-same-sex-marriage
Justices Thomas, Alito slam Obergefell same-sex marriage decision as Supreme Court denies Kim Davis case
Alito and Thomas both dissented from the original Obergefell ruling
Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito said Monday that Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court case that mandated all states recognize same-sex marriages, is "found nowhere in the text" of the Constitution and threatens "the religious liberty of the many Americans who believe that marriage is a sacred institution between one man and one woman."
The statement was written by Thomas and joined by Alito about the case of Kim Davis, a former Kentucky county clerk who said she would not give same-sex couples marriage licenses. The two justices said they agreed with the consensus of the court that it should not take Davis' case, but only because it did not "cleanly present" the "important questions about the scope of our decision in Obergefell."
Thomas and Alito dissented from the original Obergefell decision and their statement Monday could indicate that they would vote to overturn it if presented the chance.
"[T]his petition provides a stark reminder of the consequences of Obergefell. By choosing to privilege a novel constitutional right over the religious liberty interests explicitly protected in the First Amendment, and by doing so undemocratically, the court has created a problem that only it can fix," Thomas wrote. "Until then, Obergefell will continue to have 'ruinous consequences for religious liberty.'"
Obergefell was decided in 2015 by a 5-4 court, with then-Justice Anthony Kennedy writing the majority opinion joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Stephen Breyer.
Thomas said Obergefell forced Davis to choose "between her religious beliefs and her job. When she chose to follow her faith, and without any statutory protection of her religious beliefs, she was sued almost immediately for violating the constitutional rights of same-sex couples."
The Obergefell opinion authored by Kennedy aimed to balance the rights of religious people with those of gay couples, saying that "[m]any who deem same-sex marriage to be wrong reach that conclusion based on decent and honorable religious or philosophical premises."
Kennedy added: "[I]t must be emphasized that religions, and those who adhere to religious doctrines, may continue to advocate with utmost, sincere conviction that, by divine precepts, same-sex marriage should not be condoned."
But Thomas argued Monday that Obergefell is highly flawed and marginalizes those who do not believe in same-sex marriage.
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"Obergefell enables courts and governments to brand religious adherents who believe that marriage is between one man and one woman as bigots, making their religious liberty concerns that much easier to dismiss," he wrote. "In other words, Obergefell was read to suggest that being a public official with traditional Christian values was legally tantamount to invidious discrimination toward homosexuals."
Thomas added: "This assessment flows directly from Obergefell’s language, which characterized such views as 'disparag[ing]' homosexuals and 'diminish[ing] their personhood' through '[d]ignitary wounds.'"
It is unclear if or when a direct challenge to Obergefell may come before the court, or if there would be enough votes on the court to hear such a challenge. Four justices need to agree for the court to hear a case, and Alito and Thomas are the only ones who went on the record Monday. Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch were not on the court when Obergefell was decided.
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( I dont know much about the background of the case, so remember that when I make my opinon. LOL)
To me, if this is the law, this clerk is the only person who can do a marriage license? Why can't she say, "It is against my religion to give you a marriage license, but my assistant will help you." She can stand to the side, let her assistant do the license, and they are done.
Obviously, there much be some backup when she is on vacation, sick, etc. The county doesn't come to a stop if that happens. If it does, then she should ask for a raise. LOL
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Obergefell is much bigger than that, it created (or recognized, depending on your POV) the right for gays to marry. In other words it took the question out of the purview of state legislatures.
If it is reversed states can restrict or eliminate gay marriage, at least their initiation (they may still have to recognize marriages performed in other states).
It’s hard to say if it’s really in jeopardy though. Roberts would likely be a no-vote on stare decisis grounds alone.
But that still leaves the three Trump appointed judges. Though Gorsuch wrote an opinion in June that gave recognition to trans rights as gender rights. So he’s not obviously in the Thomas/Alito camp on this either.
Personally I suspect it is safe. It’s just surprising to see these two basically announce they’d like to see a case that would give them another shot at it.
