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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #3

    A good family friend recently carried to term and gave birth, if it can be called that, to a baby with anencephaly - essentially his brain never developed past the stem. Heartbreaking. She carried it to term with full knowledge so that its organs coud be used to give other babies life.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #4

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
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        Not a straightforward condolence to compose. I’m impressed they went ahead and called it losing a son.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          #6

          Miscarriages are so weird. I know the time at which they occur can really change things, but I've seen people treat them like everything from a cold to losing a family member and everything in between. Personally I'm always kind of surprised when people don't get more upset about them, but admittedly it's not going to be something I'll ever be able to fully wrap my head around.

          Please love yourself.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

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              xenon
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              #8

              @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

              The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

              I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

              We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

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              • X xenon

                @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

                We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

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                Horace
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                #9

                @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

                We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

                No we don't. We don't walk around with people respecting, fearing, and waiting on us all day. We are average schlubs, except for those of us who aren't. Such as this kid would have been.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                  @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                  The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                  I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

                  We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

                  No we don't. We don't walk around with people respecting, fearing, and waiting on us all day. We are average schlubs, except for those of us who aren't. Such as this kid would have been.

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                  xenon
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                  #10

                  @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                  @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                  @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                  The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                  I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

                  We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

                  No we don't. We don't walk around with people respecting, fearing, and waiting on us all day. We are average schlubs, except for those of us who aren't. Such as this kid would have been.

                  I know a few people in rural India living off the largesse of their siblings in developed countries.

                  Then they have an army of the subsistence under-caste to wait on them.

                  They ain’t particularly happy people.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #11

                    @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                    The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                    Not so sure. Plenty of celebrity kids have a miserable time.

                    I've been taken by the number of celebrity suicides over the last couple of years. Particularly amongst 'influencers' and people who don't actually do anything, but are famous simply for being famous. It seems like there have been an unusually large number of them.

                    I was only joking

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                    • X xenon

                      @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                      @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                      @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                      The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                      I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

                      We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

                      No we don't. We don't walk around with people respecting, fearing, and waiting on us all day. We are average schlubs, except for those of us who aren't. Such as this kid would have been.

                      I know a few people in rural India living off the largesse of their siblings in developed countries.

                      Then they have an army of the subsistence under-caste to wait on them.

                      They ain’t particularly happy people.

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                      xenon
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                      #12

                      @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                      @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                      @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                      @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                      The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                      I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

                      We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

                      No we don't. We don't walk around with people respecting, fearing, and waiting on us all day. We are average schlubs, except for those of us who aren't. Such as this kid would have been.

                      I know a few people in rural India living off the largesse of their siblings in developed countries.

                      Then they have an army of the subsistence under-caste to wait on them.

                      They ain’t particularly happy people.

                      @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                      @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                      @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                      @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                      The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                      I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

                      We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

                      No we don't. We don't walk around with people respecting, fearing, and waiting on us all day. We are average schlubs, except for those of us who aren't. Such as this kid would have been.

                      I know a few people in rural India living off the largesse of their siblings in developed countries.

                      Then they have an army of the subsistence under-caste to wait on them.

                      They ain’t particularly happy people.

                      Just extending this thought. One of the happiest people I know is one of those siblings in the first world countries.

                      He has a bustling cabinetry business. Works about 70 hours a week.

                      Lives on rent in a shit 1 br. The thought of taking away economic uncertainty for his siblings and kids makes him happier than anything else could.

                      He was shaped by his first 25 years of hard living and uncertainty (before emigrating).

                      It amazes him to no end that he can just plug hard work in on one end and reliably get money out the other.

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                        xenon
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                        #13

                        Incidentally a lot of successful immigrants spoil their kids with that very thought.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                          The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                          Not so sure. Plenty of celebrity kids have a miserable time.

                          I've been taken by the number of celebrity suicides over the last couple of years. Particularly amongst 'influencers' and people who don't actually do anything, but are famous simply for being famous. It seems like there have been an unusually large number of them.

                          AxtremusA Away
                          AxtremusA Away
                          Axtremus
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          My condolences to the couple for their loss.

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in A Powerful Statement:

                          @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                          The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                          Not so sure. Plenty of celebrity kids have a miserable time.

                          Since this kid miscarried, the couple will likely try again and the next kid will have the this kid’s life. Had this kid survived, the would-be (n+1)th kid (where n is the total # of kids the couple plan to have) would be prevented from conception. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a wash.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #15

                            It's not a wash at all.

                            "It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. You take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have."

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              My condolences to the couple for their loss.

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in A Powerful Statement:

                              @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                              The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                              Not so sure. Plenty of celebrity kids have a miserable time.

                              Since this kid miscarried, the couple will likely try again and the next kid will have the this kid’s life. Had this kid survived, the would-be (n+1)th kid (where n is the total # of kids the couple plan to have) would be prevented from conception. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a wash.

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              #16

                              @Axtremus said in A Powerful Statement:

                              My condolences to the couple for their loss.

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in A Powerful Statement:

                              @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                              The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                              Not so sure. Plenty of celebrity kids have a miserable time.

                              Since this kid miscarried, the couple will likely try again and the next kid will have the this kid’s life. Had this kid survived, the would-be (n+1)th kid (where n is the total # of kids the couple plan to have) would be prevented from conception. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a wash.

                              This might be the single most offensive post ever put on the forum.

                              The Brad

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #17

                                I should say, I wasn't trying to be glib about the miscarriage. It's a terrible thing to happen to anybody.

                                I was only joking

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  My condolences to the couple for their loss.

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in A Powerful Statement:

                                  @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                                  The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                                  Not so sure. Plenty of celebrity kids have a miserable time.

                                  Since this kid miscarried, the couple will likely try again and the next kid will have the this kid’s life. Had this kid survived, the would-be (n+1)th kid (where n is the total # of kids the couple plan to have) would be prevented from conception. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a wash.

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                                  Jolly
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                                  #18

                                  @Axtremus said in A Powerful Statement:

                                  My condolences to the couple for their loss.

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in A Powerful Statement:

                                  @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                                  The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                                  Not so sure. Plenty of celebrity kids have a miserable time.

                                  Since this kid miscarried, the couple will likely try again and the next kid will have the this kid’s life. Had this kid survived, the would-be (n+1)th kid (where n is the total # of kids the couple plan to have) would be prevented from conception. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a wash.

                                  If you look at it like that, a bullet in your ear would mean no more than the hole you make, when you pull your finger out of water.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @Axtremus said in A Powerful Statement:

                                    My condolences to the couple for their loss.

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in A Powerful Statement:

                                    @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                                    The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                                    Not so sure. Plenty of celebrity kids have a miserable time.

                                    Since this kid miscarried, the couple will likely try again and the next kid will have the this kid’s life. Had this kid survived, the would-be (n+1)th kid (where n is the total # of kids the couple plan to have) would be prevented from conception. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a wash.

                                    This might be the single most offensive post ever put on the forum.

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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #19

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in A Powerful Statement:

                                    @Axtremus said in A Powerful Statement:

                                    My condolences to the couple for their loss.

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in A Powerful Statement:

                                    @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                                    The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                                    Not so sure. Plenty of celebrity kids have a miserable time.

                                    Since this kid miscarried, the couple will likely try again and the next kid will have the this kid’s life. Had this kid survived, the would-be (n+1)th kid (where n is the total # of kids the couple plan to have) would be prevented from conception. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a wash.

                                    This might be the single most offensive post ever put on the forum.

                                    I agree.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                                      @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                                      The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                                      I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

                                      We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

                                      No we don't. We don't walk around with people respecting, fearing, and waiting on us all day. We are average schlubs, except for those of us who aren't. Such as this kid would have been.

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                                      taiwan_girl
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                                      #20

                                      @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                                      @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                                      @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                                      The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                                      I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

                                      We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

                                      No we don't. We don't walk around with people respecting, fearing, and waiting on us all day.

                                      Speak for yourself!!! 😂 😂 😂

                                      @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                                      Then they have an army of the subsistence under-caste to wait on them.

                                      A semi close friend had a father who immigrated from Russia after the partition to Pakistan and became super high up in the Pakistan Air Force. He showed me pictures of his childhood home. There was basically an apartment building for his family staff - multiple cooks, gardeners, drivers, etc etc etc

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                                        @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                                        @Horace said in A Powerful Statement:

                                        The biggest loser here is the kid. He had a charmed life in store.

                                        I dunno - happiness feels relative to what you're used to.

                                        We live better lives than 10th century monarchs, to a certain degree.

                                        No we don't. We don't walk around with people respecting, fearing, and waiting on us all day.

                                        Speak for yourself!!! 😂 😂 😂

                                        @xenon said in A Powerful Statement:

                                        Then they have an army of the subsistence under-caste to wait on them.

                                        A semi close friend had a father who immigrated from Russia after the partition to Pakistan and became super high up in the Pakistan Air Force. He showed me pictures of his childhood home. There was basically an apartment building for his family staff - multiple cooks, gardeners, drivers, etc etc etc

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #21

                                        @taiwan_girl it's good to be in the Nomenklatura.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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