Hey George
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@jon-nyc said in Hey George:
What thread?
https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/4155/trump-to-quarantine-awaiting-covid-test/177
Last few comments.
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Right but your defense of it was more “they learn real MD stuff too” rather than a defense of osteopathy per se. Is osteopathy evidence based?
@jon-nyc said in Hey George:
Right but your defense of it was more “they learn real MD stuff too” rather than a defense of osteopathy per se. Is osteopathy evidence based?
Is osteopathy itself evidence based? I doubt it. But the fact is that most osteopaths' field and scope of practice is no different from any MD's. That's basically what you said, though.
https://edzardernst.com/2019/03/new-review-confirms-osteopathy-is-not-evidence-based/
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/6166/is-osteopathic-medicine-evidence-based
Would I go to an osteopath to deliver my kid, give me an anesthetic, treat my hypertension? Sure.
Spinal manipulation? If it makes me feel better (like a chiropractor), why not?
Treat my asthma, hypertension with spinal manipulation? Nope.
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Ok, I've still been thinking about this.
So the colleges of osteopathy teach (being a little snarky) 'real medicine with a side of astrology'.
Even assuming the 'real medicine' part is equal, wouldn't there still be some self-selection going on? IOW that the med students applying for real medicine with the side of astrology differ in fundamental ways from the people that apply to the school that just teaches real medicine?
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The average osteopath make over 150k a year. Our healthcare system has decided they are not quacks.
@Loki said in Hey George:
The average osteopath make over 150k a year. Our healthcare system has decided they are not quacks.
That is more than a nurse, an NP, a Physicians Assistant and a Pharmacist. Would be interesting to care to a family practice doc.
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Good points, all.
As I said, the osteopathic schools are easier to get into than medical school, so there's that part of the selection process. I don't think the "astrology" part has anything to do with the decision making.
As the old joke went, "Why yeah, osteopathic school was my first choice."
If you're desperate to get into medicine, you'll explore anything that'll get you there. Look at the people going to medical school in the Caribbean or Mexico, hoping to secure a spot in a residency that's US based.
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The AOA responds.
Consider the source, of course:
